From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: dlaor@redhat.com
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Better qemu/kvm defaults (was Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Gang scheduling in CFS)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:16:55 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EFC9277.9040604@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EFC903C.3030509@redhat.com>
On 12/29/2011 10:07 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
> On 12/26/2011 11:05 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 12/26/2011 05:14 AM, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
>>>>
>>>> btw you can get an additional speedup by enabling x2apic, for
>>>> default_send_IPI_mask_logical().
>>>>
>>> In the host?
>>>
>>
>> In the host, for the guest:
>>
>> qemu -cpu ...,+x2apic
>>
>
> It seems to me that we should improve our default flags.
> So many times users fail to submit the proper huge command-line options that we
> require. Honestly, we can't blame them, there are so many flags and so many use
> cases its just too hard to get it right for humans.
>
> I propose a basic idea and folks are welcome to discuss it:
>
> 1. Improve qemu/kvm defaults
> Break the current backward compatibility (but add a --default-
> backward-compat-mode) and set better values for:
> - rtc slew time
What do you specifically mean?
> - cache=none
I'm not sure I see this as a "better default" particularly since O_DIRECT fails
on certain file systems. I think we really need to let WCE be toggable from the
guest and then have a caching mode independent of WCE. We then need some
heuristics to only enable cache=off when we know it's safe.
> - x2apic, maybe enhance qemu64 or move to -cpu host?
Alex posted a patch for this. I'm planning on merging it although so far no one
has chimed up either way.
> - aio=native|threads (auto-sense?)
aio=native is unsafe to default because linux-aio is just fubar. It falls back
to synchronous I/O if the underlying filesystem doesn't support aio. There's no
way in userspace to problem if it's actually supported or not either...
> - use virtio devices by default
I don't think this is realistic since appropriately licensed signed virtio
drivers do not exist for Windows. (Please note the phrase "appropriately
licensed signed").
> - more?
>
> Different defaults may be picked automatically when TCG|KVM used.
>
> 2. External hardening configuration file kept in qemu.git
> For non qemu/kvm specific definitions like the io scheduler we
> should maintain a script in our tree that sets/sense the optimal
> settings of the host kernel (maybe similar one for the guest).
What are "appropriate host settings" and why aren't we suggesting that distros
and/or upstream just set them by default?
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> HTH,
> Dor
>
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2011-12-29 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] Better qemu/kvm defaults (was Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Gang scheduling in CFS) Dor Laor
2011-12-29 16:13 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 16:16 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-01-01 10:16 ` Dor Laor
2012-01-01 14:01 ` Ronen Hod
2012-01-02 9:37 ` Dor Laor
2012-01-03 15:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-03 22:31 ` Dor Laor
2012-01-03 22:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-03 22:59 ` Dor Laor
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