From: Orit Wasserman <owasserm@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, satoshi.itoh@aist.go.jp,
t.hirofuchi@aist.go.jp, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Isaku Yamahata <yamahata@valinux.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21][RFC] postcopy live migration
Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 11:43:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F002AC6.7080007@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EFCEC38.3080308@codemonkey.ws>
On 12/30/2011 12:39 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 12/28/2011 07:25 PM, Isaku Yamahata wrote:
>> Intro
>> =====
>> This patch series implements postcopy live migration.[1]
>> As discussed at KVM forum 2011, dedicated character device is used for
>> distributed shared memory between migration source and destination.
>> Now we can discuss/benchmark/compare with precopy. I believe there are
>> much rooms for improvement.
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.qemu.org/Features/PostCopyLiveMigration
>>
>>
>> Usage
>> =====
>> You need load umem character device on the host before starting migration.
>> Postcopy can be used for tcg and kvm accelarator. The implementation depend
>> on only linux umem character device. But the driver dependent code is split
>> into a file.
>> I tested only host page size == guest page size case, but the implementation
>> allows host page size != guest page size case.
>>
>> The following options are added with this patch series.
>> - incoming part
>> command line options
>> -postcopy [-postcopy-flags<flags>]
>> where flags is for changing behavior for benchmark/debugging
>> Currently the following flags are available
>> 0: default
>> 1: enable touching page request
>>
>> example:
>> qemu -postcopy -incoming tcp:0:4444 -monitor stdio -machine accel=kvm
>>
>> - outging part
>> options for migrate command
>> migrate [-p [-n]] URI
>> -p: indicate postcopy migration
>> -n: disable background transferring pages: This is for benchmark/debugging
>>
>> example:
>> migrate -p -n tcp:<dest ip address>:4444
>>
>>
>> TODO
>> ====
>> - benchmark/evaluation. Especially how async page fault affects the result.
>
> I'll review this series next week (Mike/Juan, please also review when you can).
>
> But we really need to think hard about whether this is the right thing to take into the tree. I worry a lot about the fact that we don't test pre-copy migration nearly enough and adding a second form just introduces more things to test.
>
> It's also not clear to me why post-copy is better. If you were going to sit down and explain to someone building a management tool when they should use pre-copy and when they should use post-copy, what would you tell them?
Start with pre-copy , if it doesn't converge switch to post-copy
Orit
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-29 1:25 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21][RFC] postcopy live migration Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/21] arch_init: export sort_ram_list() and ram_save_block() Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/21] arch_init: export RAM_SAVE_xxx flags for postcopy Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/21] arch_init/ram_save: introduce constant for ram save version = 4 Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/21] arch_init: refactor host_from_stream_offset() Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/21] arch_init/ram_save_live: factor out RAM_SAVE_FLAG_MEM_SIZE case Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/21] arch_init: refactor ram_save_block() Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/21] arch_init/ram_save_live: factor out ram_save_limit Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/21] arch_init/ram_load: refactor ram_load Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/21] exec.c: factor out qemu_get_ram_ptr() Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/21] exec.c: export last_ram_offset() Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/21] savevm: export qemu_peek_buffer, qemu_peek_byte, qemu_file_skip Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/21] savevm: qemu_pending_size() to return pending buffered size Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/21] savevm, buffered_file: introduce method to drain buffer of buffered file Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/21] migration: export migrate_fd_completed() and migrate_fd_cleanup() Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/21] migration: factor out parameters into MigrationParams Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/21] umem.h: import Linux umem.h Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/21] update-linux-headers.sh: teach umem.h to update-linux-headers.sh Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/21] configure: add CONFIG_POSTCOPY option Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/21] postcopy: introduce -postcopy and -postcopy-flags option Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/21] postcopy outgoing: add -p and -n option to migrate command Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 1:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/21] postcopy: implement postcopy livemigration Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 15:51 ` Orit Wasserman
2012-01-04 3:34 ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-04 3:29 ` Isaku Yamahata
2012-01-12 14:15 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21][RFC] postcopy live migration Anthony Liguori
2012-01-01 9:43 ` Orit Wasserman [this message]
2012-01-01 16:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-02 9:28 ` Dor Laor
2012-01-02 17:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-01 9:52 ` Dor Laor
2012-01-04 1:30 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-01-04 3:48 ` Michael Roth
2012-01-04 3:51 ` Isaku Yamahata
[not found] ` <BLU0-SMTP161AC380D472854F48E33A5BC9A0@phx.gbl>
2012-01-11 2:45 ` [Qemu-devel] 回??: " Isaku Yamahata
2012-01-12 8:29 ` thfbjyddx
2012-01-12 8:54 ` [Qemu-devel] 回??: [PATCH 00/21][RFC] postcopy live?migration Isaku Yamahata
2012-01-12 13:26 ` thfbjyddx
2012-01-16 6:51 ` Isaku Yamahata
2012-01-16 10:17 ` Isaku Yamahata
2012-03-12 8:36 ` thfbjyddx
2012-03-13 3:21 ` Isaku Yamahata
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