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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, satoshi.itoh@aist.go.jp,
	t.hirofuchi@aist.go.jp, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Isaku Yamahata <yamahata@valinux.co.jp>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2][RFC] postcopy migration: Linux char device for postcopy
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:55:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F01EF86.2050600@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120102170551.GF4172@redhat.com>

On 01/02/2012 06:05 PM, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 06:01:45PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 12/29/2011 06:00 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> The NFS client has exactly the same issue, if you mount it with the intr
>>> option.  In fact you could use the NFS client as a trivial umem/cuse
>>> prototype.
>>
>> Actually, NFS can return SIGBUS, it doesn't care about restarting daemons.
>
> During KVMForum I suggested to a few people that it could be done
> entirely in userland with PROT_NONE.

Or MAP_NORESERVE.

Anything you do that is CUSE-based should be doable in a separate QEMU 
thread (rather than a different process that talks to CUSE).  If a 
userspace CUSE-based solution could be done with acceptable performance, 
the same thing would have the same or better performance if done 
entirely within QEMU.

> So the problem is if we do it in
> userland with the current functionality you'll run out of VMAs and
> slowdown performance too much.
>
> But all you need is the ability to map single pages in the address
> space.

Would this also let you set different pgprots for different pages in the 
same VMA?  It would be useful for write barriers in garbage collectors 
(such as boehm-gc).  These do not have _that_ many VMAs, because every 
GC cycles could merge all of them back to a single VMA with PROT_READ 
permissions; however, they still put some strain on the VM subsystem.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-02 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-29  1:26 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2][RFC] postcopy migration: Linux char device for postcopy Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29  1:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] export necessary symbols Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29  1:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] umem: chardevice for kvm postcopy Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 11:17   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 12:22     ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 12:47       ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-05  4:08   ` [Qemu-devel] 回复: " thfbjyddx
2012-01-05 10:48     ` [Qemu-devel] 回??: " Isaku Yamahata
2012-01-05 11:10       ` Tommy
2012-01-05 12:18         ` Isaku Yamahata
2012-01-05 15:02           ` Tommy Tang
     [not found]           ` <4F05BB68.9050302@hotmail.com>
2012-01-05 15:05             ` Tommy Tang
2012-01-06  7:02           ` thfbjyddx
2012-01-06 17:13             ` [Qemu-devel] 回??: [PATCH 2/2] umem: chardevice for kvm?postcopy Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29  1:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2][RFC] postcopy migration: Linux char device for postcopy Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 11:24 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 12:39   ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 12:55     ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 13:49       ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 13:52         ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 14:18           ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 14:35             ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 14:49               ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 14:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 15:53                   ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-12-29 16:00                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 16:01                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-02 17:05                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-02 17:55                           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-01-03 14:25                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-12 13:57                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-13  2:06                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-04  3:03                           ` Isaku Yamahata
2012-01-12 13:59                             ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-13  1:09                               ` Benoit Hudzia
2012-01-13  1:31                                 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-01-13  9:40                                   ` Benoit Hudzia
2012-01-13  2:03                                 ` Isaku Yamahata
2012-01-13  2:15                                   ` Isaku Yamahata
2012-01-13  9:55                                     ` Benoit Hudzia
2012-01-13  9:48                                   ` Benoit Hudzia
2012-01-13  2:09                               ` Andrea Arcangeli

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