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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Chris Wright" <chrisw@redhat.com>,
	quintela@redhat.com, "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"KVM devel mailing list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Developers qemu-devel" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for Tuesday 3
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:14:39 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F02567F.6080701@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA_cRDddMQD3cFzLp8doS2P+9=qwpF-PizjVA4QDrFowZA@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/02/2012 09:54 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 2 January 2012 13:46, Andreas Färber<afaerber@suse.de>  wrote:
>> * when can we expect to be able to model SoCs rather than CPUs? Will
>> this affect command line usage - are we going to have '-device
>> ti-tms570' rather than '-cpu cortex-r4' then, or -cpu overriding the
>> container's default?
>
> My initial inclination is to say that specifying the CPU on the
> command line is almost always the wrong thing for ARM platforms
> (now or in a future QOM world). For instance, if you start the
> vexpress-a9 board with something other than -cpu cortex-a9 it won't
> complain but it won't do the right thing either (you'll get the
> private peripherals for the A9 with whatever CPU core you asked for).
>
> I don't think you want to have the user specifying -device my-soc
> on the command line either -- the user should be selecting a board
> (machine) model, which will generally nail down which soc and cpu
> are used.

Let's separate out what a user *should* do from what a user *can* do.

A user *should* have a command line syntax that reflects something that makes 
sense to them.  For instance, qemu-system-arm --machine beaglebone

I don't really care what the SoC or CPU in my beaglebone is.  I just want to 
emulate one.

But I do believe we want to make it possible for -device to create a CPU even 
when it doesn't make sense.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-03  1:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-02 12:09 [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for Tuesday 3 Juan Quintela
2012-01-02 13:46 ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-02 14:11   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-01-03  1:12     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-03  8:54       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-01-02 15:54   ` Peter Maydell
2012-01-03  1:14     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-01-03 10:26       ` Peter Maydell
2012-01-03 12:07         ` Alex Bradbury
2012-01-03 13:37         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-03 13:57           ` Peter Maydell
2012-01-03 14:02             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-03 14:13               ` Peter Maydell
2012-01-03  1:04   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-03 13:52     ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-03 13:59       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-03  8:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-03 12:15   ` Dor Laor
2012-01-03 13:12     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-03 14:10       ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-03 14:30       ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2012-01-04  2:47       ` Cao,Bing Bu
2012-01-04 11:25         ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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