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From: Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Better qemu/kvm defaults (was Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Gang scheduling in CFS)
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 00:59:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F038866.1060705@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F0384FF.8070207@codemonkey.ws>

On 01/04/2012 12:45 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>>> When using 'guests-pick', we initially present the most compatible
>>> network model (rtl8139, for instance). We would provide a paravirtual
>>> channel (guest-agent?) that could be used to enumerate which models were
>>> available and let guest decide which model to use for the next reboot.
>>> You could also enable immediate switch over using hot plug.
>>
>> If guest uses an agent, it probably has virtio-serial driver and it
>> indicates it
>> has other virtio ones, otherwise, the agent won't fly
>
> Right, but I still you want the ability for the guest to indicate that
> it would like to use virtio drivers or not.

It would probably require a PCI 4.0 edition...

> If you think about it, it makes no sense to choose which type of device
> gets used in the hypervisor.  In an ideal world, the guest would just
> figure out what it wants to see and get that.
>
> The same is probably true about most device model properties.  rtc clock
> slew policy is another good example.  Instead of trying to figure out
> what the guest type is, we should just let the guest request device
> model settings like that.

The poor guest only wanted to have a real time clock that works w/ fine 
grain time stamps. It was x86 vendors w/ the help of few programmers who 
kept addition various ideas like tsc, hpet, constant_tsc, non stop tsc, 
really really non stop tsc + timer,...

Cheers,
Dor

      reply	other threads:[~2012-01-03 23:00 UTC|newest]

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2011-12-29 16:07                 ` [Qemu-devel] Better qemu/kvm defaults (was Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Gang scheduling in CFS) Dor Laor
2011-12-29 16:13                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-29 16:16                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-01 10:16                     ` Dor Laor
2012-01-01 14:01                       ` Ronen Hod
2012-01-02  9:37                         ` Dor Laor
2012-01-03 15:48                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-03 22:31                         ` Dor Laor
2012-01-03 22:45                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-03 22:59                             ` Dor Laor [this message]

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