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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/6] save/restore on Xen
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:54:15 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F1D90B7.4060202@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201231623340.3196@kaball-desktop>

On 01/23/2012 10:46 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> On 01/23/2012 04:47 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2012, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> On 2012-01-20 18:20, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> this is the fourth version of the Xen save/restore patch series.
>>>>> We have been discussing this issue for quite a while on #qemu and
>>>>> qemu-devel:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://marc.info/?l=qemu-devel&m=132346828427314&w=2
>>>>> http://marc.info/?l=qemu-devel&m=132377734605464&w=2
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A few different approaches were proposed to achieve the goal
>>>>> of a working save/restore with upstream Qemu on Xen, however after
>>>>> prototyping some of them I came up with yet another solution, that I
>>>>> think leads to the best results with the less amount of code
>>>>> duplications and ugliness.
>>>>> Far from saying that this patch series is an example of elegance and
>>>>> simplicity, but it is closer to acceptable anything else I have seen so
>>>>> far.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's new is that Qemu is going to keep track of its own physmap on
>>>>> xenstore, so that Xen can be fully aware of the changes Qemu makes to
>>>>> the guest's memory map at any time.
>>>>> This is all handled by Xen or Xen support in Qemu internally and can be
>>>>> used to solve our save/restore framebuffer problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>>  From the Qemu common code POV, we still need to avoid saving the guest's
>>>>> ram when running on Xen, and we need to avoid resetting the videoram on
>>>>> restore (that is a benefit to the generic Qemu case too, because it
>>>>> saves few cpu cycles).
>>>>
>>>> For my understanding: Refraining from the memset is required as the
>>>> already restored vram would then be overwritten?
>>>
>>> Yep
>>>
>>>> Or what is the ordering
>>>> of init, RAM restore, and initial device reset now?
>>>
>>> RAM restore (done by Xen)
>>>
>>> physmap rebuild (done by xen_hvm_init in qemu)
>>> pc_init()
>>> qemu_system_reset()
>>> load_vmstate()
>>
>> That's your problem.  You don't want to do load_vmstate().  You just want to
>> load the device model, not RAM.
>
> True
>
>
>> Why not introduce new Xen specific commands like I suggested on IRC?
>
> Introducing a Xen specific command is not an issue, but I didn't want to
> duplicate all the functionalities currently in savevm.c.

The code is fairly reusable since live migration and savevm use the same 
internal bits.  I think you would just need another version of 
qemu_loadvm_state().  That function is only a hundred lines or so so you 
shouldn't be duplicating much at all.

>> You should have a separate load_device_state() function and mark anything that
>> is RAM as RAM when doing savevm registration.  Better yet, mark devices as
>> devices since that's what you really care about.
>
> I dropped this approach because I thought it causes too much code
> duplication.

Then you're doing it wrong :-)

But even if there is, just refactor out the common code.

> However, following your suggestion, if I add a generic "device" flag in
> SaveStateEntry and implement a generic qemu_save_device_state in
> savevm.c, I believe that the duplication of code would be small.
> And patch #1 could go away.

Yup.

>
>
> However the issue of patch #4, "do not reset videoram on resume", still
> remains: no matter what parameter I pass to Qemu, if qemu_system_reset
> is called on resume the videoram is going to be overwritten by 0xff.

The memset(0xff) looks dubious to me.  My guess is that this could be moved to 
the vgabios-cirrus which would solve your problem.

> In this regard, don't you think it would be advantageous to Qemu in
> general not to reset the videram in resume? It can be pretty large, so
> it is a significant waste of a memset.

It claims to fix a real bug.  Moving the memset to vgabios would do what you 
want to do in a more robust way I think.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-23 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-20 17:20 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/6] save/restore on Xen Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-20 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 1/6] vl.c: do not save the RAM state when Xen is enabled Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-23 15:58   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-20 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 2/6] xen mapcache: check if memory region has moved Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-20 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 3/6] Set runstate to INMIGRATE earlier Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-20 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 4/6] cirrus_vga: do not reset videoram on resume Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-20 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 5/6] xen: record physmap changes to xenstore Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-20 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 6/6] xen: change memory access behavior during migration Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-20 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/6] save/restore on Xen Jan Kiszka
2012-01-23 10:47   ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-23 11:50     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-23 11:59       ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-23 12:10         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-23 14:46           ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-23 15:46             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-23 16:16               ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-23 16:22                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-23 17:13                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-23 17:18                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-23 17:31                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-23 17:36                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 10:21                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-01-24 11:13                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-24 12:00                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-24 15:39                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-24 13:18                             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 15:43                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-24 13:25                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 15:47                             ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-24 11:10                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-24 11:27                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-01-24 11:32                         ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-24 11:44                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-01-24 15:48                             ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-24 11:52                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-24 13:15                             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 13:14                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-24 15:56                         ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-24 17:51                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-23 16:00     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-23 16:46       ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-23 16:54         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-01-23 17:05           ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-23 17:07             ` Anthony Liguori
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-01-25 13:04 Stefano Stabellini
2012-01-31 15:50 ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-02-13 12:20   ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-02-21 10:22     ` Stefano Stabellini

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