From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44285) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpdVk-0003vR-8M for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:22:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpdVi-0003Ws-SR for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:21:56 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:55976) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RpdVi-0003Wk-Lr for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:21:54 -0500 Message-ID: <4F1E8635.2020608@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:21:41 +0100 From: Gerd Hoffmann MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4F19AB66.8060901@siemens.com> <4F1D4974.4090003@siemens.com> <4F1D4E43.7000501@siemens.com> <4F1D80BA.1040504@siemens.com> <4F1D9546.4040801@siemens.com> <4F1D9649.1000102@codemonkey.ws> <4F1D995A.4020604@siemens.com> <4F1D9A8E.1080102@codemonkey.ws> In-Reply-To: <4F1D9A8E.1080102@codemonkey.ws> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/6] save/restore on Xen List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Anthony Liguori Cc: Jan Kiszka , "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" , Avi Kivity , Stefano Stabellini , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" Hi, >>> We really should view RAM as just another device so I don't like the >>> idea of >>> propagating a global concept of "when RAM is restored" because that >>> treats it >>> specially compared to other devices. >>> >>> But viewing RAM as just another device, having Xen only restore a >>> subset of >>> devices should be a reasonable thing to do moving forward. I don't think modeling device memory (i.e. vga vram) as something independent from the device (vga) is a good idea. Because it isn't. >> To my understanding, QXL will break identically on Xen for the same >> reason: the reset handler assumes it can deal with the VRAM as it likes. Yes. Some data structures for host <-> guest communication are living in device memory, and a reset initializes these. > QXL also has a VGA BIOS that it could use to initialize VRAM. A similar > change could be made for it. Hmm. Not sure this is a good idea. cheers, Gerd