* [Qemu-devel] cry for help: wiki.qemu.org spam
@ 2012-01-27 9:14 Michael Tokarev
2012-01-27 12:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-27 16:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael Tokarev @ 2012-01-27 9:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: qemu-devel; +Cc: Anthony Liguori
The amount of spam our wiki.qemu.org collects, is
increasing every day. It was easy several months
ago to manually delete these pages once a week to
keep wiki spam-free, now they sometimes manage to
re-create a page while I delete it!
No, it is not counted in 1000s per day - not yet
anyway. But 10..20 new users with the same amount
of new spam pages per day become a norm.
To see how it looks like, see the RecentChanges:
http://wiki.qemu.org/Special:RecentChanges
There, each new user adds one spam page. And see
this link
http://wiki.qemu.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hidebots=0
to see my actions too.
What complicates things alot for me is the fact
that now, after wiki changes, *every* "Delete page"
operation takes 30..60 seconds to complete, and
during all this time the wiki is not doing anything.
This should be fixed too, I think.
Now, I think the best course is to restrict new
user creation, require moderation for new users.
The best will be to ask them to write some words
in the confirmation email as of why they want the
account, -- so that the moderator will be able to
tell somewhat if this is for real or not; but I've
no idea if such a feature exists in mediawiki.
I can play moderational role, -- this at least should
be significantly easier than my current delete page
approach.
And if not, I'd love to see Nuke extension enabled --
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke -- which
should help with page deletion.
Any other suggestions are ofcourse welcome.
Thanks,
/mjt
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] cry for help: wiki.qemu.org spam
2012-01-27 9:14 [Qemu-devel] cry for help: wiki.qemu.org spam Michael Tokarev
@ 2012-01-27 12:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-27 15:58 ` Stefan Weil
` (2 more replies)
2012-01-27 16:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
1 sibling, 3 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Liguori @ 2012-01-27 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Tokarev; +Cc: Anthony Liguori, qemu-devel
On 01/27/2012 03:14 AM, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> The amount of spam our wiki.qemu.org collects, is
> increasing every day. It was easy several months
> ago to manually delete these pages once a week to
> keep wiki spam-free, now they sometimes manage to
> re-create a page while I delete it!
>
> No, it is not counted in 1000s per day - not yet
> anyway. But 10..20 new users with the same amount
> of new spam pages per day become a norm.
>
> To see how it looks like, see the RecentChanges:
>
> http://wiki.qemu.org/Special:RecentChanges
>
> There, each new user adds one spam page. And see
> this link
>
> http://wiki.qemu.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hidebots=0
>
> to see my actions too.
>
> What complicates things alot for me is the fact
> that now, after wiki changes, *every* "Delete page"
> operation takes 30..60 seconds to complete, and
> during all this time the wiki is not doing anything.
> This should be fixed too, I think.
>
> Now, I think the best course is to restrict new
> user creation, require moderation for new users.
> The best will be to ask them to write some words
> in the confirmation email as of why they want the
> account, -- so that the moderator will be able to
> tell somewhat if this is for real or not; but I've
> no idea if such a feature exists in mediawiki.
>
> I can play moderational role, -- this at least should
> be significantly easier than my current delete page
> approach.
>
> And if not, I'd love to see Nuke extension enabled --
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke -- which
> should help with page deletion.
Nuke's now available. Let me look into how moderation would work..
And thanks for helping keep the wiki spam free!
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> Any other suggestions are ofcourse welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> /mjt
>
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] cry for help: wiki.qemu.org spam
2012-01-27 12:47 ` Anthony Liguori
@ 2012-01-27 15:58 ` Stefan Weil
2012-01-27 16:04 ` Stefan Weil
2012-01-27 16:11 ` Stefan Weil
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Weil @ 2012-01-27 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Anthony Liguori; +Cc: Michael Tokarev, qemu-devel
Am 27.01.2012 13:47, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> On 01/27/2012 03:14 AM, Michael Tokarev wrote:
>> The amount of spam our wiki.qemu.org collects, is
>> increasing every day. It was easy several months
>> ago to manually delete these pages once a week to
>> keep wiki spam-free, now they sometimes manage to
>> re-create a page while I delete it!
>>
>> No, it is not counted in 1000s per day - not yet
>> anyway. But 10..20 new users with the same amount
>> of new spam pages per day become a norm.
>>
>> To see how it looks like, see the RecentChanges:
>>
>> http://wiki.qemu.org/Special:RecentChanges
>>
>> There, each new user adds one spam page. And see
>> this link
>>
>> http://wiki.qemu.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hidebots=0
>>
>> to see my actions too.
>>
>> What complicates things alot for me is the fact
>> that now, after wiki changes, *every* "Delete page"
>> operation takes 30..60 seconds to complete, and
>> during all this time the wiki is not doing anything.
>> This should be fixed too, I think.
>>
>> Now, I think the best course is to restrict new
>> user creation, require moderation for new users.
>> The best will be to ask them to write some words
>> in the confirmation email as of why they want the
>> account, -- so that the moderator will be able to
>> tell somewhat if this is for real or not; but I've
>> no idea if such a feature exists in mediawiki.
>>
>> I can play moderational role, -- this at least should
>> be significantly easier than my current delete page
>> approach.
>>
>> And if not, I'd love to see Nuke extension enabled --
>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke -- which
>> should help with page deletion.
>
> Nuke's now available. Let me look into how moderation would work..
>
> And thanks for helping keep the wiki spam free!
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>>
>> Any other suggestions are ofcourse welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> /mjt
>>
Hi Anthony,
I suggest installing these two extensions (I use both on my Wiki):
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiSpoof
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount
Cheers,
Stefan W.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] cry for help: wiki.qemu.org spam
2012-01-27 12:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-27 15:58 ` Stefan Weil
@ 2012-01-27 16:04 ` Stefan Weil
2012-01-27 16:11 ` Stefan Weil
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Weil @ 2012-01-27 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Anthony Liguori; +Cc: Michael Tokarev, qemu-devel
Am 27.01.2012 13:47, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> On 01/27/2012 03:14 AM, Michael Tokarev wrote:
>> The amount of spam our wiki.qemu.org collects, is
>> increasing every day. It was easy several months
>> ago to manually delete these pages once a week to
>> keep wiki spam-free, now they sometimes manage to
>> re-create a page while I delete it!
>>
>> No, it is not counted in 1000s per day - not yet
>> anyway. But 10..20 new users with the same amount
>> of new spam pages per day become a norm.
>>
>> To see how it looks like, see the RecentChanges:
>>
>> http://wiki.qemu.org/Special:RecentChanges
>>
>> There, each new user adds one spam page. And see
>> this link
>>
>> http://wiki.qemu.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hidebots=0
>>
>> to see my actions too.
>>
>> What complicates things alot for me is the fact
>> that now, after wiki changes, *every* "Delete page"
>> operation takes 30..60 seconds to complete, and
>> during all this time the wiki is not doing anything.
>> This should be fixed too, I think.
>>
>> Now, I think the best course is to restrict new
>> user creation, require moderation for new users.
>> The best will be to ask them to write some words
>> in the confirmation email as of why they want the
>> account, -- so that the moderator will be able to
>> tell somewhat if this is for real or not; but I've
>> no idea if such a feature exists in mediawiki.
>>
>> I can play moderational role, -- this at least should
>> be significantly easier than my current delete page
>> approach.
>>
>> And if not, I'd love to see Nuke extension enabled --
>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke -- which
>> should help with page deletion.
>
> Nuke's now available. Let me look into how moderation would work..
>
> And thanks for helping keep the wiki spam free!
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>>
>> Any other suggestions are ofcourse welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> /mjt
>>
>
>
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Version shows the extensions
used by Mediawiki. Look for "Spam prevention" - there are lots of
extensions installed there for that purpose.
Cheers,
Stefan Weil
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] cry for help: wiki.qemu.org spam
2012-01-27 9:14 [Qemu-devel] cry for help: wiki.qemu.org spam Michael Tokarev
2012-01-27 12:47 ` Anthony Liguori
@ 2012-01-27 16:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Daniel P. Berrange @ 2012-01-27 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Tokarev; +Cc: Anthony Liguori, qemu-devel
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 01:14:11PM +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> The amount of spam our wiki.qemu.org collects, is
> increasing every day. It was easy several months
> ago to manually delete these pages once a week to
> keep wiki spam-free, now they sometimes manage to
> re-create a page while I delete it!
>
> No, it is not counted in 1000s per day - not yet
> anyway. But 10..20 new users with the same amount
> of new spam pages per day become a norm.
>
> To see how it looks like, see the RecentChanges:
>
> http://wiki.qemu.org/Special:RecentChanges
>
> There, each new user adds one spam page. And see
> this link
>
> http://wiki.qemu.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hidebots=0
>
> to see my actions too.
>
> What complicates things alot for me is the fact
> that now, after wiki changes, *every* "Delete page"
> operation takes 30..60 seconds to complete, and
> during all this time the wiki is not doing anything.
> This should be fixed too, I think.
>
> Now, I think the best course is to restrict new
> user creation, require moderation for new users.
> The best will be to ask them to write some words
> in the confirmation email as of why they want the
> account, -- so that the moderator will be able to
> tell somewhat if this is for real or not; but I've
> no idea if such a feature exists in mediawiki.
>
> I can play moderational role, -- this at least should
> be significantly easier than my current delete page
> approach.
>
> And if not, I'd love to see Nuke extension enabled --
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke -- which
> should help with page deletion.
>
> Any other suggestions are ofcourse welcome.
On the KVM mediawiki (and all the others I maintain) I enabled the Math
question captcha which has pretty much solved the problem of bots now.
NB, you need to tweak it to use custom form field names, since bots can
detect it & auto-fill the questions if you use the default form names.
Daniel
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] cry for help: wiki.qemu.org spam
2012-01-27 12:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-27 15:58 ` Stefan Weil
2012-01-27 16:04 ` Stefan Weil
@ 2012-01-27 16:11 ` Stefan Weil
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Weil @ 2012-01-27 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Anthony Liguori; +Cc: Michael Tokarev, qemu-devel
Am 27.01.2012 13:47, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> On 01/27/2012 03:14 AM, Michael Tokarev wrote:
>> The amount of spam our wiki.qemu.org collects, is
>> increasing every day. It was easy several months
>> ago to manually delete these pages once a week to
>> keep wiki spam-free, now they sometimes manage to
>> re-create a page while I delete it!
>>
>> No, it is not counted in 1000s per day - not yet
>> anyway. But 10..20 new users with the same amount
>> of new spam pages per day become a norm.
>>
>> To see how it looks like, see the RecentChanges:
>>
>> http://wiki.qemu.org/Special:RecentChanges
>>
>> There, each new user adds one spam page. And see
>> this link
>>
>> http://wiki.qemu.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hidebots=0
>>
>> to see my actions too.
>>
>> What complicates things alot for me is the fact
>> that now, after wiki changes, *every* "Delete page"
>> operation takes 30..60 seconds to complete, and
>> during all this time the wiki is not doing anything.
>> This should be fixed too, I think.
>>
>> Now, I think the best course is to restrict new
>> user creation, require moderation for new users.
>> The best will be to ask them to write some words
>> in the confirmation email as of why they want the
>> account, -- so that the moderator will be able to
>> tell somewhat if this is for real or not; but I've
>> no idea if such a feature exists in mediawiki.
>>
>> I can play moderational role, -- this at least should
>> be significantly easier than my current delete page
>> approach.
>>
>> And if not, I'd love to see Nuke extension enabled --
>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke -- which
>> should help with page deletion.
>
> Nuke's now available. Let me look into how moderation would work..
>
> And thanks for helping keep the wiki spam free!
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>>
>> Any other suggestions are ofcourse welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> /mjt
>
This is also a useful mediawiki extension:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit
It tries to prevent spam bots from editing wiki pages by
using captcha techniques.
Regards,
Stefan W.
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