From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42626) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsZrO-0006nJ-MU for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:04:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsZrK-0006cy-70 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:04:26 -0500 Received: from mail-pw0-f45.google.com ([209.85.160.45]:55804) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsZrJ-0006ci-Rl for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:04:22 -0500 Received: by pbaa11 with SMTP id a11so1371143pba.4 for ; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 05:04:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F29384F.6070404@codemonkey.ws> Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 07:04:15 -0600 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1328055113-30031-1-git-send-email-grant.likely@secretlab.ca> <201202010135.32078.paul@codesourcery.com> <1CB9FDC2-00A7-45BF-9693-21EB23FB47B1@suse.de> <4F28A554.4090000@codemonkey.ws> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] arm: add device tree support List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: John Williams Cc: Peter Maydell , Alexander Graf , Rob Herring , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Grant Likely , Paul Brook , "Edgar E. Iglesias" , Jeremy Kerr On 01/31/2012 08:40 PM, John Williams wrote: > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: >> >> Globals are even worse! >> >> Can't you hear the kernel loader begging to be turned into a device? It's >> pleading with us to stop abusing other parts of QEMU and make it a first >> class citizen of QEMU. > > Is there some kind of initialisation phase where such a device can do its thing? > > Unless I'm missing something a "loader" device will be racing the rest > of the VM after reset to populate the memory with the desired > contents, no? How does it race? Devices normally never touch memory so a loader device will be the only thing mucking with memory. Regards, Anthony Liguori > John