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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 05/11] suspend: add infrastructure
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:57:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F3A21DD.2090601@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120214083753.GZ18866@redhat.com>

On 02/14/12 09:37, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 09:18:34AM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>>   Hi,
>>
>>> Shouldn't we stop the whole VM at some point, not only vcpu that
>>> does ACPI IO? May be I missed where it is done in the patch series.
>>
>> It isn't hidden elsewhere, qemu doesn't do it.   The code was like that
>> before, and I think the reason is that the guest has to stop the other
>> cpus before entering s3.
>>
> Current code calls qemu_system_reset_request() which takes care of
> stopping (and reseting) all vcpus (and rest of the machine) by setting
> reset_requested flag immediately on suspend.

No.  The current code simply has no separate suspend and wakeup steps.

> We cannot just stop
> current cpu on S3 and delay reset till wakeup since guest can leave
> other vcpus in spinning state and they will take 100% of host cpu while
> guest is suspended.

I see.  I've expeced the the guest os putting them into a hlt loop or
some simliar idle state.  Play save and expliticly pausing them all is
certainly good from a robustness perspective.

> I think it is also important to reset all device
> immediately to ensure that no device will do DMA into main memory after
> suspend.

Didn't investigate yet, but I suspect this could break wakeup from pci
devices (nic, usb-tablet via uhci) ...

> Technically if this happens it would be a guest bug since
> guest should make sure that devices are stopped before entering S3,
> but I wouldn't want to debug such bug report :)

... and it shouldn't be needed.  Although I agree that bugs in that area
are nasty to debug ...

cheers,
  Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-14  8:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-09 17:05 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/11] initial suspend support Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-09 17:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 01/11] acpi: move around structs Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-09 17:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 02/11] acpi: add ACPIREGS Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-09 17:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 03/11] acpi: don't pass overflow_time to acpi_pm1_evt_get_sts Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-09 17:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 04/11] acpi: add acpi_pm1_evt_write_en Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-09 17:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 05/11] suspend: add infrastructure Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-13  9:21   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-14  8:18     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-14  8:37       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-14  8:57         ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2012-02-14  9:08           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-14 14:49             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-09 17:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 06/11] suspend: switch acpi s3 to new infrastructure Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-09 17:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 07/11] suspend: add system_wakeup monitor command Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-09 17:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 08/11] suspend: make ps/2 devices wakeup the guest Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-09 17:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 09/11] suspend: make serial ports " Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-09 17:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 10/11] suspend: make rtc alarm " Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-09 17:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 11/11] suspend: pmtimer s3 wakeup Gerd Hoffmann
2012-02-10 12:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/11] suspend: add qmp events Gerd Hoffmann

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