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From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, andreas.niederl@iaik.tugraz.at
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 2/7] Add TPM (frontend) hardware interface (TPM TIS) to Qemu
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:19:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F437DBE.90901@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120221031854.GA2502@redhat.com>

On 02/20/2012 10:18 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 07:43:05PM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
>> On 02/20/2012 05:02 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 08:43:17AM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>>> +/*
>>>> + * Send a TPM request.
>>>> + * Call this with the state_lock held so we can sync with the receive
>>>> + * callback.
>>>> + */
>>>> +static void tpm_tis_tpm_send(TPMState *s, uint8_t locty)
>>>> +{
>>>> +    TPMTISState *tis =&s->s.tis;
>>>> +
>>>> +    tpm_tis_show_buffer(&tis->loc[locty].w_buffer, "tpm_tis: To TPM");
>>>> +
>>>> +    s->command_locty = locty;
>>>> +    s->cmd_locty     =&tis->loc[locty];
>>>> +
>>>> +    /* w_offset serves as length indicator for length of data;
>>>> +       it's reset when the response comes back */
>>>> +    tis->loc[locty].status = TPM_TIS_STATUS_EXECUTION;
>>>> +    tis->loc[locty].sts&= ~TPM_TIS_STS_EXPECT;
>>>> +
>>>> +    s->to_tpm_execute = true;
>>>> +    qemu_cond_signal(&s->to_tpm_cond);
>>>> +}
>>> What happens IIUC is that frondend sets to_tpm_execute
>>> and signals a condition, and backend clears it
>>> and waits on a condition.
>>>
>>> So how about moving all the signalling
>>> and locking out to backend, and have frontend
>>> invoke a callback to signal it?
>>>
>>> The whole threading thing then becomes a work-around
>>> for a backend that does not support select,
>>> instead of spilling out into frontend?
>>>
>> How do I get the lock calls (qemu_mutex_lock(&s->state_lock)) out of
>> the frontend? Do you want me to add callbacks to the backend
>> interface for locking (s->be_driver->ops->state_lock(s)) and one for
>> unlocking (s->be_driver->ops->state_unlock(tpm_be)) of the state
>> that really belongs to the front-end (state is 's') and invoke it as
>> shown in parenthesis and still keep s->state_lock around? Ideally
>> the locks would end up being 'nop's' if select() was available, but
>> in the end all backend will need to support that lock.
>>
>> [The lock protects the common structure so that the thread in the
>> backend can deliver the response to a request while the OS for
>> example polls the hardware interface for its current state.]
>>
>>
>>     Stefan
>
> Well, this is just an idea, please do not take this as
> a request or anything like that. Maybe it is a dumb one.
>
> Maybe something like what you describe.

I am starting to wonder what we're trying to achieve? We have a 
producer-consumer problem here with different threads. Both threads need 
to have some locking constructs along with the signalling (condition). 
The backend needs to be written in a certain way to work with the 
frontend, locking and signalling is a part of this. So I don't see it 
makes much sense to move all that code around, especially since there is 
only one backend right now. Maybe something really great can be done 
once there is a 2nd backend.

> Alternatively, I imagined that you can pass a copy
> or pointer of the necessary state to the backend,
> which queues the command and wakes the worker.
> In the reverse direction, backend queues a response
> and when OS polls you dequeue it and update state.
>

The OS doesn't necessarily need to poll. It is just one mode of 
operation of the OS, the other being interrupt-driven where the backend 
raises the interrupt once it has delivered the response to the frontend.


    Stefan

> Can this work?

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-21 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-14 13:43 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 0/7] Qemu Trusted Platform Module (TPM) integration Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 1/7] Support for TPM command line options Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 2/7] Add TPM (frontend) hardware interface (TPM TIS) to Qemu Stefan Berger
2012-02-20  8:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-20 15:48     ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-20 19:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-20 19:58         ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-23 20:47       ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-20 22:02   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21  0:43     ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-21  3:18       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21 11:19         ` Stefan Berger [this message]
2012-02-21 12:18           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21 15:05             ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-21 19:58               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21 22:30                 ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-21 23:08                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-22  0:21                     ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-22  4:34                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-22 15:03                         ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-22 17:55                     ` Stefan Berger
2012-03-02 12:02                     ` Stefan Berger
2012-03-04 22:59                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-05 15:44                         ` Stefan Berger
2012-03-05 15:46                         ` Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 3/7] Add a debug register Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 4/7] Build the TPM frontend code Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 5/7] Add a TPM Passthrough backend driver implementation Stefan Berger
2012-02-20 19:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-20 20:25     ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-20 21:15       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21  1:03         ` Stefan Berger
2012-03-21 23:27           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-20 20:01   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-20 21:12     ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-20 21:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21  0:30     ` Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 6/7] Introduce --enable-tpm-passthrough configure option Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 7/7] Add fd parameter for TPM passthrough driver Stefan Berger
2012-01-12 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 0/7] Qemu Trusted Platform Module (TPM) integration Paul Moore
2012-01-16 19:21   ` Paul Moore

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