From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, Federico Simoncelli <fsimonce@redhat.com>,
mtosatti@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Add blkmirror block driver
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:47:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F4B8957.7060404@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QUEy-Nyds7EM17QSyst2_6xEw9gjjSVyxGbp7E4scMv3A@mail.gmail.com>
On 02/27/2012 02:09 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > Non-incremental mode is "pre-copy" migration. It would stream in the
> > background from the source to the destination. In this case:
> >
> > - you need to differentiate streaming writes from other writes. When
> > streaming, you do not want to issue spurious writes to the source;
> >
> > - you can skip streaming anything that has been written to the
> > destination already. This means that you need: 1) a bitmap similar to
> > is_allocated; 2) to widen writes to a cluster; 3) serialization similar
> > to copy-on-read.
> >
> > I'm not yet sure how much of this will be generalized in the block layer
> > and block/stream.c, and how much will be specific to blkmirror, but in
> > general none of this applies to blkverify.
>
> Agreed but I'm not sure it has to do with blkmirror either. blkmirror
> and blkverify perform the same function except that blkverify mirrors
> reads too and checks that they match.
>
> Who knows when and if pre-copy will be (re)implemented, it's not a
> good argument to say let's duplicate block mirroring because we're not
> sure about the design of a feature feature yet which might want to
> hook in here.
It's not a duplicate, it just happens that two very simple drivers share
1 operation out of 4 (open, read, write, flush). There are other
differences, for example:
1) blkverify hardcodes raw for one format and auto-detects the other.
blkmirror needs to have a specified format for both, and I don't think
starting another bikeshedding discussion on blkverify backwards
compatibility is a good idea;
2) blkverify doesn't flush the raw file;
3) blkverify in the future could add callbacks to create snapshots or
load/save imgstate, and forward them to the test file; this doesn't make
sense for blkmirror.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-27 13:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-22 17:13 [Qemu-devel] Live Block Migration using Mirroring Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-22 17:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Add blkmirror block driver Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 16:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 16:18 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 16:20 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 16:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 16:51 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 16:18 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-27 9:23 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 11:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 11:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 11:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 13:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 13:47 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-02-27 14:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 14:59 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 15:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-22 17:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Update the " Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 7:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23 9:44 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 9:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-22 17:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Add nocreate option to snapshot_blkdev Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 7:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23 7:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23 9:39 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 9:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23 10:19 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 11:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23 15:47 ` [Qemu-devel] Live Block Migration using Mirroring Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 16:10 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 16:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 17:06 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 11:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Add blkmirror block driver Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 11:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Add the blockdev-reopen and blockdev-migrate commands Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 12:03 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-24 12:12 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 13:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 17:04 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-27 14:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-24 16:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 v2] Add blkmirror block driver Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 17:02 ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 17:15 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 18:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 18:17 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-27 9:17 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 16:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v2] Add the blockdev-reopen and blockdev-migrate commands Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 17:46 ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 18:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 19:37 ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 19:01 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-24 19:40 ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 20:26 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-24 22:46 ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 20:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 20:36 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-24 21:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 22:30 ` Eric Blake
2012-02-25 6:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 11:29 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-27 12:12 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-27 12:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 13:06 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-27 14:39 ` [Qemu-devel] drive transactions (was Re: [PATCH 2/2 v2] Add the blockdev-reopen and blockdev-migrate commands) Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 14:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 14:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 14:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 15:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 15:17 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-27 15:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 16:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 16:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 17:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 16:33 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-27 16:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 16:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 16:50 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-27 16:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 16:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 16:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 17:37 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-28 15:47 ` [Qemu-devel] Live Block Migration using Mirroring Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-28 17:15 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-28 17:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-28 17:46 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-28 18:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-28 18:21 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-28 17:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-29 12:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3] Add blkmirror block driver Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-29 13:02 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-29 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4] " Federico Simoncelli
2012-03-05 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] Live Block Migration using Mirroring Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-05 17:20 ` Eric Blake
2012-03-05 17:44 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-05 18:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=4F4B8957.7060404@redhat.com \
--to=pbonzini@redhat.com \
--cc=fsimonce@redhat.com \
--cc=kwolf@redhat.com \
--cc=mtosatti@redhat.com \
--cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
--cc=stefanha@gmail.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).