From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>,
mtosatti@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Federico Simoncelli <fsimonce@redhat.com>,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] drive transactions (was Re: [PATCH 2/2 v2] Add the blockdev-reopen and blockdev-migrate commands)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 08:46:57 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F4B9761.3010601@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F4B95A5.3000804@redhat.com>
On 02/27/2012 08:39 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 02/27/2012 02:06 PM, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
>> IMHO, this is asking for two commands, where cases 1& 2 is one of them
>> and cases 3& 4 is the other one. Note how 'incremental' goes away and
>> 'new_image_file' really becomes an optional.
>
> I really would have no idea on naming except perhaps "drive_migrate" and
> "funny_drive_migrate_for_ovirt". But actually I must admit that it's a
> rat's nest.
>
> First, there's no reason why live-snapshotting to new_image_file
> shouldn't be handled within QEMU. That would make the above table much
> more orthogonal. However, oVirt likes to create its own snapshots.
>
> Perhaps we do need to rethink this together with group snapshots.
>
> There are four kinds of operations that we do on block devices:
> (a) create an image. This is part of what blockdev-snapshot does.
> (b) switch a block device to a new image. drive-reopen does this.
> (c) add mirroring to a new destination.
> (d) activate streaming from a base image
>
> drive-migrate does (b) and (c), will do (a) and (d) when we add
> pre-copy, and should do (a) right now if Federico wasn't an oVirt
> developer. :)
>
> Thinking more about it, the commands we _do_ need are:
> - start a transaction
> - switch to a new image
> - add mirroring to a new destination
> - commit a transaction
> - rollback a transaction
> - query transaction errors
I think a better way to think of this is as a batch submission. It would be
relatively easy to model in QMP too (just have a batch-command that has a list
of commands as it's argument).
The difference between batch submission and a transaction is atomic rollback.
But I don't think atomic rollback is really needed here.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-27 14:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-22 17:13 [Qemu-devel] Live Block Migration using Mirroring Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-22 17:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Add blkmirror block driver Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 16:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 16:18 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 16:20 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 16:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 16:51 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 16:18 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-27 9:23 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 11:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 11:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 11:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 13:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 13:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 14:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 14:59 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 15:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-22 17:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Update the " Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 7:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23 9:44 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 9:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-22 17:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Add nocreate option to snapshot_blkdev Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 7:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23 7:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23 9:39 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 9:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23 10:19 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 11:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23 15:47 ` [Qemu-devel] Live Block Migration using Mirroring Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 16:10 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 16:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 17:06 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 11:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Add blkmirror block driver Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 11:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Add the blockdev-reopen and blockdev-migrate commands Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 12:03 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-24 12:12 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 13:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 17:04 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-27 14:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-24 16:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 v2] Add blkmirror block driver Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 17:02 ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 17:15 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 18:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 18:17 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-27 9:17 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 16:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v2] Add the blockdev-reopen and blockdev-migrate commands Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 17:46 ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 18:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 19:37 ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 19:01 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-24 19:40 ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 20:26 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-24 22:46 ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 20:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 20:36 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-24 21:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 22:30 ` Eric Blake
2012-02-25 6:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 11:29 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-27 12:12 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-27 12:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 13:06 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-27 14:39 ` [Qemu-devel] drive transactions (was Re: [PATCH 2/2 v2] Add the blockdev-reopen and blockdev-migrate commands) Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 14:46 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-02-27 14:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 14:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 15:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 15:17 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-27 15:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 16:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 16:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 17:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 16:33 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-27 16:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 16:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 16:50 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-27 16:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 16:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 16:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 17:37 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-28 15:47 ` [Qemu-devel] Live Block Migration using Mirroring Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-28 17:15 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-28 17:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-28 17:46 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-28 18:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-28 18:21 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-28 17:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-29 12:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3] Add blkmirror block driver Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-29 13:02 ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-29 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4] " Federico Simoncelli
2012-03-05 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] Live Block Migration using Mirroring Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-05 17:20 ` Eric Blake
2012-03-05 17:44 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-05 18:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
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