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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Peter Lieven <pl@dlh.net>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] linux guests and ksm performance
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:56:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F4CDD05.5030003@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F4CD494.5020909@dlh.net>

On 02/28/2012 03:20 PM, Peter Lieven wrote:
> On 28.02.2012 14:16, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 02/24/2012 08:41 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>> I dont think that it is cpu intense. All user pages are zeroed
>>>> anyway, but at allocation time it shouldnt be a big difference in
>>>> terms of cpu power.
>>> It's easy to find a scenario where eagerly zeroing pages is wasteful.
>>> Imagine a process that uses all of physical memory.  Once it
>>> terminates the system is going to run processes that only use a small
>>> set of pages.  It's pointless zeroing all those pages if we're not
>>> going to use them anymore.
>> In the long term, we will use them, except if the guest is completely
>> idle.
>>
>> The scenario in which zeroing is expensive is when the page is refilled
>> through DMA.  In that case the zeroing was wasted.  This is a pretty
>> common scenario in pagecache intensive workloads.
>>
> Avi, what do you think of the proposal to give the guest vm a hint
> that the host is running ksm? In that case the administrator
> has already chosen that saving physical memory is more important
> than performance to him?

It makes some sense.  Perhaps through the balloon device, a flag that
indicates that voluntary ballooning will be gratefully accepted.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-28 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-23 15:40 [Qemu-devel] linux guests and ksm performance Peter Lieven
2012-02-23 16:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 18:39   ` Javier Guerra Giraldez
2012-02-23 19:08   ` peter.lieven@gmail.com
2012-02-24  6:41     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-24  6:53       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-24  7:23         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-24  7:43           ` Peter Lieven
2012-02-28 11:45           ` Peter Lieven
     [not found]           ` <4F4CBE7C.8040304@dlh.net>
     [not found]             ` <CAJSP0QWj0fJT-P-yHKicz4mGyhW4RnWXgimNad07JYXew5qmZw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-02-28 12:16               ` Peter Lieven
2012-02-28 13:16       ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-28 13:20         ` Peter Lieven
2012-02-28 13:56           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-02-24  7:04   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-28 13:14   ` Avi Kivity

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