From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42248) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S61L9-0000M5-JD for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 10:02:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S61L2-00071R-Nv for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 10:02:43 -0500 Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com ([209.85.210.45]:35834) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S61L2-000715-H2 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 10:02:36 -0500 Received: by dadp14 with SMTP id p14so1745748dad.4 for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 07:02:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F5A1B86.4070806@codemonkey.ws> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:02:30 -0600 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4F582EDB.1040608@redhat.com> <4F58B5CB.8040503@codemonkey.ws> <4F58CDEA.2020506@redhat.com> <4F59010C.2060105@codemonkey.ws> <4F5909B3.4080405@redhat.com> <4F590BD7.6030605@codemonkey.ws> <4F5913F3.3040503@redhat.com> <4F591EB4.1090300@codemonkey.ws> <4F5A076E.9040904@redhat.com> <4F5A0D49.60200@codemonkey.ws> <4F5A13FA.6040606@redhat.com> <4F5A1729.5060206@codemonkey.ws> <4F5A1B25.6070306@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5A1B25.6070306@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Future goals for autotest and virtualization tests List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Paolo Bonzini Cc: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues , Cleber Rosa , QEMU devel , Ademar Reis On 03/09/2012 09:00 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > Il 09/03/2012 15:43, Anthony Liguori ha scritto: >> Linux is the only part that matters here. The userspace in qemu-jeos >> is just there to give a small environment for Linux to function >> properly in. > > But again that's not okay for all testcases. If I want to do SCSI > tests, I cannot write them in shell scripts because qemu-jeos does not > have sg3_utils. What SCSI tests are you trying to write? Are these the sort of tests that would be interesting to also run on Fedora, Windows, and Ubuntu? Regards, Anthony Liguori > Even libos would not help; relying on sg3_utils means that the client is > a completely clear reimplementation. I don't care about the extra trips > to the SCSI specs that sg3_utils would save. The problem is that since > qtest cannot run on real hardware, I don't have confirmation that I > didn't misinterpret the standards. Writing all bits of the testsuite > makes it likely to have the same misinterpretations in both the tested > code and the tests, even if I try to write the tests from scratch with > only the spec in front of me. > >> I'm skeptical of the value of this from a QEMU point of view. Do we >> really care if the buildroot version of udev propagates hotplug >> events correct in buildroot for ARM in a beagleboard machine? > > I don't care about udev. But even just binutils+GCC+kernel+uclibc is > not as easy if you care about dozens of architectures. > > Paolo