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From: Cleber Rosa <crosa@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues <lmr@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	QEMU devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Ademar Reis <areis@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Future goals for autotest and virtualization tests
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 14:02:27 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F5A37A3.7020705@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F5A265F.6060504@codemonkey.ws>

On 03/09/2012 12:48 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 03/09/2012 09:34 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 09/03/2012 16:24, Anthony Liguori ha scritto:
>>>> At the very least dump the inquiry pages, mode pages, etc. and see 
>>>> that
>>>> they make sense and correspond to the device properties.
>>>
>>> Is this not something that's reasonably easy to do in qtest?
>>
>> Yes (at least with virtio-scsi the libos bits are relatively small; just
>> think of what it would have been like when the only HBA was LSI), but
>> with one gotcha...
>>
>>> Is it possible to write a C program that does the ioctl and dump the
>>> inquiry page in a text format conducive to shell parsing?
>>
>> ... sg_utils also parses the pages and dumps them in human-readable
>> format.  This is useful because it provides a completely separate
>> implementation and avoids problems with misinterpretation of the
>> standard.  Of course it would work just as well if someone wrote tests
>> instead of me.
>
> I don't recommend it in the general case, but it should be trivial to 
> add additional packages to qemu-jeos and reuse the toolchain to build 
> them.
>

And then the two code bases (now buildroot and qemu-jeos) would have and 
increasing number of similar features.

> I don't think it's all that valuable here.  I think you really want to 
> test this via qtest.  You could easy copy/paste code from sg_utils to 
> do the parsing if you were so inclined...

And yet more code duplication. Even if a few KLOCs, but still... 
Hopefully I'm not the only one that fears those suggestions becoming real.

>
>>>>> Are these the sort of tests that would be interesting to also run on
>>>>> Fedora, Windows, and Ubuntu?
>>>>
>>>> They should give exactly the same output on any guest.
>>>
>>> Is it valuable to have a per-platform test or since this is mostly
>>> passthrough to the device (I assume), do you just need a single test?
>>
>> Ah, understood.  Yeah, a single test is enough for the purpose of
>> testing QEMU.  If you want to test the driver too, running under Windows
>> would be useful.
>
> We should separate integration test (testing multiple components where 
> we want to be able to use different versions/implementations of one 
> component) from functional/unit tests that are strictly testing a 
> single component.  There isn't always a clean separation and there may 
> be overlap, but I don't think we should stress out about the overlap.
>
> For instance, doing general purpose I/O testing is something where we 
> want to test I/O with a Linux guest, a Windows guest, etc.  This is an 
> integration test and we should focus on it.
>
> But we probably want some sort of I/O test in qemu-test too since it 
> provides a simple functional test.  Yes, there's overlap, but the 
> functional form of the test is so simple that it really isn't that 
> important.
>
> But testing how QEMU handles malformatted virtio-blk requests is 
> something that's clearly QEMU specific.  There's no value doing that 
> with a Linux and Windows guest (even if it's somehow possible).  It's 
> definitely a unit test that's strictly specific to QEMU.
>
> I think autotest should be able to execute QEMU's unit and functional 
> tests.  By using a test framework like gtest that exposes a test 
> protocol, it should be trivial to add that support.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>> Paolo
>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-09 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-08  4:00 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Future goals for autotest and virtualization tests Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-03-08 11:44 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-08 11:54   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-08 12:17     ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-08 12:18       ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-09 11:48       ` [Qemu-devel] [KVM-AUTOTEST] " Osier Yang
2012-03-08 12:28     ` [Qemu-devel] " Cleber Rosa
2012-03-08 13:06       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-08 13:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-08 14:01   ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-03-08 14:48     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-08 15:00       ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-08 23:59         ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-09  0:08           ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-08 14:49   ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-08 14:56     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-08 15:07       ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-08 15:14         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-08 16:05           ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-08 17:03             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-08 17:59               ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-08 18:21                 ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-03-08 18:22                 ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-03-08 19:16                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-08 21:02                   ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-08 21:24                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-08 22:24                       ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-08 23:21                         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-08 23:51                           ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-09  9:41                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-09 14:00                               ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-09 14:54                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-09 15:01                                   ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-09 15:17                                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-09 11:14                             ` Kevin Wolf
2012-03-09 11:59                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 12:13                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-03-09 12:24                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 11:20                           ` Cleber Rosa
2012-03-09 12:04                             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 12:40                               ` Cleber Rosa
2012-03-09 12:42                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 12:46                                   ` Cleber Rosa
2012-03-08 23:07                       ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-03-08 23:56                         ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-09  0:04                         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 13:24                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-09 12:13                         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 12:48                           ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-03-09 14:13                             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 14:40                               ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-03-09 14:40                               ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-09 13:07                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-09 13:56                         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 14:43                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-09 14:48                             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 13:03                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-08 15:46       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-03-08 15:57         ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-08 16:10           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-08 16:34             ` Kevin Wolf
2012-03-08 16:36               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-08 16:46                 ` Ademar Reis
2012-03-08 16:47                 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-03-08 16:08         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-08 15:19   ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-03-08 18:57     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-08 19:34       ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-03-08 19:43         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-08 20:17           ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2012-03-08 21:02             ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-08 21:03             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 13:36               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-09 14:01                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 14:30                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-09 14:43                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 15:00                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-09 15:02                         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 15:17                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-09 15:24                             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 15:34                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-09 15:48                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-09 17:02                                   ` Cleber Rosa [this message]
2012-03-08 14:04 ` Alon Levy

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