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From: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Mark Langsdorf <mark.langsdorf@calxeda.com>,
	Stefan Weil <sw@weilnetz.de>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Erik Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] use an unsigned long for the max_sz parameter in load_image_targphys
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:08:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F5B6069.404@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA8rMAVEGdvgvXC9RbyvSAkbQb28fhkkJJQB3Vc8DYdfcQ@mail.gmail.com>

Am 10.03.2012 14:51, schrieb Peter Maydell:
> On 9 March 2012 18:47, Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> wrote:
>> Am 09.03.2012 18:11, schrieb Peter Maydell:
>>> On 9 March 2012 14:28, Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> wrote:
>>>> No, please. We're describing sizes, not addresses. target_phys_addr_t
>>>> thus is semantically wrong here. The RAM size is unsigned long IIRC (it
>>>> is limited by the host's available memory). If you subtract something
>>>> from a size it remains a size. I had therefore suggested size_t before.
>>>> I expect sizeof(size_t) >= sizeof(unsigned long).
>>>
>>> We're discussing target sizes. size_t might be smaller than
>>> target_phys_addr_t, so it's also semantically wrong. We don't
>>> have a target_size_t, though, and I think "use an address
>>> related type for an offset" is less bad than "use a host
>>> sized type for a guest sized value".
>>
>> That is a moot point. There is no such thing as a "target size".
> 
> "Length of a block of memory on the guest" is what I meant.
> What you need is "an integer type large enough to hold the
> difference between two guest pointer values". The size of
> that type should depend only on the guest config, not on the
> host, so 'unsigned long', 'size_t', 'off_t' etc are all wrong.

Your view is very ARM-centric. In the PowerPC domain for instance, we
have a number of usages where we hardcode a size of, e.g., 1 MB. And
Alex should know that. I don't want to use target_phys_addr_t for that
and forcing an end address calculation, as suggested by Alex, would be
possible but is not as convenient as the current API.

Doing a size check as Mark has demonstrated in ARM code (one place!)
seems much simpler to me than hurting all targets just because ARM wants
to pass a possibly stupid value unchecked to the common API.

Compare David's off_t patch from March 8th: We'll never get an image
size larger than off_t's max. Using target_phys_addr_t, uint64_t or
__int128_t for the max are all moot (academic) because we'll never get
to their max if it's larger than off_t. Therefore I've been saying, the
host's limit is the upper realistic limit for image_load_targphys().

ELF may be a different case to consider since it can be sparse.

Andreas

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-10 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-08 16:59 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] use an unsigned long for the max_sz parameter in load_image_targphys Mark Langsdorf
2012-03-08 17:56 ` Eric Blake
2012-03-08 18:13   ` Mark Langsdorf
2012-03-09  9:25 ` Markus Armbruster
2012-03-09 13:15   ` Mark Langsdorf
2012-03-09 13:21     ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-09 13:34       ` Mark Langsdorf
2012-03-09 13:50         ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-09 13:58           ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-09 14:28           ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-09 17:11             ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-09 18:47               ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-09 19:04                 ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-10  6:24                   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-03-10 14:22                   ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-10 13:51                 ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-10 14:08                   ` Andreas Färber [this message]
2012-03-10 15:27                     ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-12 15:28                       ` Mark Langsdorf
2012-03-12 15:53                       ` Markus Armbruster
2012-03-12 16:04                         ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-12 16:09                           ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-12 16:14                           ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 16:12                       ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-09 14:17     ` Markus Armbruster
2012-03-09 14:52       ` Mark Langsdorf
2012-03-09 15:12         ` Markus Armbruster
2012-03-09 14:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] " Mark Langsdorf
2012-03-09 14:31   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-03-09 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] arm highbank: force ramsize to INT_MAX when loading Mark Langsdorf
2012-03-09 16:13   ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-09 16:40     ` Mark Langsdorf
2012-03-09 18:22       ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-09 19:03         ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-09 19:21           ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-12 16:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3] use an uint64_t for the max_sz parameter in load_image_targphys Mark Langsdorf
2012-03-12 16:47   ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 17:13     ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-12 17:23       ` Mark Langsdorf
2012-03-12 16:58   ` Alexander Graf

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