From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Cc: "spice-devel@freedesktop.org" <spice-devel@freedesktop.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Spice-devel] seamless migration with spice
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:46:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F5DC604.9010702@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F5DB906.2030508@redhat.com>
Hi,
> The problem with (b) is, that iirc the way b was implemented in the past
> was still the big blob approach, but then pass the blob through the client,
> which means an evil client could modify it, causing all sorts of
> "interesting"
> behavior inside spice-server. Since we're re-implementing this to me the
> send a blob through the client approach is simply not acceptable from a
> security pov, also see my previous mail in this thread.
Agree. It should be a normal spice message which goes through the spice
marshaller for parsing & sanity checking.
> I disagree. Note that there is more info to send over then just which
> surfaces / images are cached by the client. There also is things like
> partial complete agent channel messages, including how much bytes must
> be read
> to complete the command, etc.
Is there a complete list of the session state we need to save?
> IMHO (b) would only be acceptable if the data send through the client stops
> becoming a blob.
Using (a) to send a blob isn't better.
> Instead the client could simply send a list of all
> surface ids,
> etc. which it has cached after it connects to / starts using the new
> host. Note
> that the old hosts needs to send nothing for this, this is info the
> client already
> has, also removing the need for synchronization.
Yes, some session state is known to the client anyway so we don't need a
source <-> target channel for them.
> As for certain other
> data, such
> as (but not limited to) partially parsed agent messages, these should be
> send through the regular vmstate methods IMHO.
That isn't easy to handle via vmstate, at least as soon as this goes
beyond a fixed number of fields aka 'migrate over this struct for me'.
Think multiple spice clients connected at the same time.
> 1) Do (a), sending everything that way
> 2) Do (a) sending non client state that way; and
> let the client send state like which surfaces it has cached
> when the new session starts.
I think we have to look at each piece of state information needed by the
target and look how to handle this best.
cheers,
Gerd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-12 9:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-11 13:16 [Qemu-devel] seamless migration with spice Yonit Halperin
2012-03-11 14:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 15:25 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-11 15:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 19:11 ` Yonit Halperin
2012-03-12 7:57 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [Spice-devel] " Hans de Goede
2012-03-12 9:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2012-03-12 10:03 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 10:26 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 11:29 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 11:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 11:45 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 12:44 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 14:24 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 14:35 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 11:23 ` Hans de Goede
2012-03-12 12:21 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 12:47 ` Yonit Halperin
2012-03-12 13:50 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 18:45 ` Yonit Halperin
2012-03-13 6:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-13 6:52 ` Yonit Halperin
2012-03-13 7:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 11:39 ` David Jaša
2012-03-12 8:42 ` Hans de Goede
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