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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Cc: "spice-devel@freedesktop.org" <spice-devel@freedesktop.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Spice-devel]  seamless migration with spice
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:46:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F5DC604.9010702@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F5DB906.2030508@redhat.com>

  Hi,

> The problem with (b) is, that iirc the way b was implemented in the past
> was still the big blob approach, but then pass the blob through the client,
> which means an evil client could modify it, causing all sorts of
> "interesting"
> behavior inside spice-server. Since we're re-implementing this to me the
> send a blob through the client approach is simply not acceptable from a
> security pov, also see my previous mail in this thread.

Agree.  It should be a normal spice message which goes through the spice
marshaller for parsing & sanity checking.

> I disagree. Note that there is more info to send over then just which
> surfaces / images are cached by the client. There also is things like
> partial complete agent channel messages, including how much bytes must
> be read
> to complete the command, etc.

Is there a complete list of the session state we need to save?

> IMHO (b) would only be acceptable if the data send through the client stops
> becoming a blob.

Using (a) to send a blob isn't better.

> Instead the client could simply send a list of all
> surface ids,
> etc. which it has cached after it connects to / starts using the new
> host. Note
> that the old hosts needs to send nothing for this, this is info the
> client already
> has, also removing the need for synchronization.

Yes, some session state is known to the client anyway so we don't need a
source <-> target channel for them.

> As for certain other
> data, such
> as (but not limited to) partially parsed agent messages, these should be
> send through the regular vmstate methods IMHO.

That isn't easy to handle via vmstate, at least as soon as this goes
beyond a fixed number of fields aka 'migrate over this struct for me'.
Think multiple spice clients connected at the same time.

> 1) Do (a), sending everything that way
> 2) Do (a) sending non client state that way; and
>    let the client send state like which surfaces it has cached
>    when the new session starts.

I think we have to look at each piece of state information needed by the
target and look how to handle this best.

cheers,
  Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-12  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-11 13:16 [Qemu-devel] seamless migration with spice Yonit Halperin
2012-03-11 14:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 15:25   ` Alon Levy
2012-03-11 15:36     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 19:11       ` Yonit Halperin
2012-03-12  7:57       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12  8:51         ` [Qemu-devel] [Spice-devel] " Hans de Goede
2012-03-12  9:46           ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2012-03-12 10:03             ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 10:26               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 11:29                 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 11:34                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 11:45                     ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 12:44                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 14:24                         ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 14:35                           ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 11:23             ` Hans de Goede
2012-03-12 12:21               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 12:47             ` Yonit Halperin
2012-03-12 13:50               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 18:45                 ` Yonit Halperin
2012-03-13  6:40                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-13  6:52                     ` Yonit Halperin
2012-03-13  7:40                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 11:39           ` David Jaša
2012-03-12  8:42 ` Hans de Goede

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