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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] We need more reviewers/maintainers!!
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:38:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F5E50C7.7060606@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1203121916220.923@kaball-desktop>

On 03/12/2012 02:21 PM, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>>> "infrequent write-only contributors".
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly do it for the areas I am a maintainer of, and in general we
>>>>> try to do it on xen-devel. Overall I think we are mostly succeeding even
>>>>> though admittedly the traffic is lower than qemu-devel.
>>>>> Maybe we just need more maintainers?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, we do.  But as Paul Brook likes to say, in order to be a maintainer, you
>>>> have to be willing to say no, not just apply patches.
>>>>
>>>> It's not a question of maintainers, it's a question of people providing critical
>>>> review of patches.
>>>
>>> Right, but if one's name is right below a particular subsystem in the
>>> MAINTAINERS file, one should be the one in charge of providing a timely
>>> review to all the patches that touch that subsystem.
>>
>> Note that MAINTAINERS lacks an entry for savevm.c.  That should imply M: Orphan.
>>
>>>
>>> If you one is a maintainer and one is silently ignoring a patch touching
>>> one's subsystem, then one is not doing a good job as a maintainer.
>>> Of course if one is a maintainer and rather than giving useful feedback,
>>> limits the reply to a statement like "No", is also not doing a very good
>>> job.
>>> Do we all agree on these basic principles?
>>
>> It's more complicated than that in a large project.  MAINTAINERS has different
>> support levels.  I think what you're proposing is M: Supported.
>>
>> M: Odd fixes (which is what I proposed savevm.c as) is less rigorous than that.
>
> OK, so the actual problem seems to be that not all the source files that
> are supposed to be Supported are actually supported.
> And of course some key files, like savevm.c are not even Maintained!!
> For example if I am not mistaken we are missing an entry for vga/cirrus,
> so that would also be Orphan, correct?

More likely Odd Fixes.  I think most of the things not listed are Odd Fixes 
which for something like cirrus is fine.  I doubt it's ever going to see a big 
invasive change as the code hasn't changed fundamentally in years.

But I agree, migration is an area that we need a proper maintainer for and 
hopefully this thread will help make that happen.

Regards,

Anthony Liguroi

>
> The situation is actually worse than I thought!
>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-12 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-12 17:06 [Qemu-devel] We need more reviewers/maintainers!! Stefano Stabellini
2012-03-12 17:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 17:34   ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-03-12 18:48     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 19:10       ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-03-12 19:04         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 19:21           ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-03-12 19:38             ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-03-13 11:34               ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-03-13 11:27     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-03-13 11:41       ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-03-13 12:12       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-12 18:03 ` Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-12 18:10   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 19:39     ` Lluís Vilanova
2012-03-12 19:43       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 18:18   ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-03-13 13:27     ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-14 13:50       ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-14 13:52         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-14 13:58           ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-14 14:17             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-14 14:25               ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-13 10:38   ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 19:18 ` Michael Roth
2012-03-13 11:11   ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-03-12 20:12 ` Stefan Weil
2012-03-12 20:24   ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-12 20:29     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 20:43       ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-12 21:06         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 21:09           ` malc
2012-03-12 21:13             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 21:41               ` Stefan Weil
2012-03-12 21:52                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 21:43               ` malc
2012-03-12 21:49                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 22:53                   ` malc
2012-03-12 21:16           ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-12 21:19             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-13 10:39         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-12 20:40     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-12 20:27   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 21:12     ` Stefan Weil
2012-03-12 21:18       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 23:32         ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-13  0:16           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-13  0:54             ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-13  1:01             ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-13  1:23               ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-13  1:31                 ` Super Bisquit
2012-03-13  1:39                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-13  2:04                   ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-13  2:05                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-14 19:47               ` Blue Swirl
2012-03-13  9:09             ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-13 13:50               ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13 14:12                 ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-13 14:39                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13 14:43                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-13 14:46                       ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-13 14:54                       ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-13 14:49                 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-13 14:57                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13 15:13                     ` Eric Blake
2012-03-12 21:24     ` Stefan Weil
2012-03-13 13:40     ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13 14:00       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-13 14:38         ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-13 14:41           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-14 20:00             ` Blue Swirl
2012-03-14 19:55       ` Blue Swirl
2012-03-13 10:41   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-13 16:31     ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-13 18:14       ` Stefan Weil
2012-03-14  9:17         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-07-18  9:28   ` Peter Maydell

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