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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Yonit Halperin <yhalperi@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>, Alon Levy <alevy@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"spice-devel@freedesktop.org" <spice-devel@freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Spice-devel]  seamless migration with spice
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:40:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F5EEBC4.7030704@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F5E445A.7000201@redhat.com>

On 03/12/12 19:45, Yonit Halperin wrote:
> Hi,
> On 03/12/2012 03:50 PM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>>    Hi,
>>
>>> Can you explain/exemplify, why sending data as a blob (either by (a) or
>>> (b)), that is verified only by the two ends that actually use it, is a
>>> problem?
>>
>> It tends to be not very robust.  Especially when the creating/parsing is
>> done ad-hoc and the format changes now and then due to more info needing
>> to be stored later on.  The qemu migration format which has almost no
>> structure breaks now and then because of that.  Thus I'd prefer to not
>> go down this route when creating something new.
>>
>> cheers,
>>    Gerd
> 
> Exposing spice server internals to the client/qemu seems to me more
> vulnerable then sending it as a blob.

That also depends on what and how much we need to transfer.

> Nonetheless, it introduces more
> complexity to backward compatibility support and it will need to involve
> not only the capabilities/versions of the server but also those of the
> qemu/client

Backward compatibility isn't that easy both ways.

>.Which reminds me, that we also need capabilities
> negotiation for the migration protocol between the src and the destination.

If this is a hard requirement then using the vmstate channel isn't going
to work.  The vmstate is a one-way channel, no way to negotiate anything
between source and target.

cheers,
  Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-13  6:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-11 13:16 [Qemu-devel] seamless migration with spice Yonit Halperin
2012-03-11 14:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 15:25   ` Alon Levy
2012-03-11 15:36     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 19:11       ` Yonit Halperin
2012-03-12  7:57       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12  8:51         ` [Qemu-devel] [Spice-devel] " Hans de Goede
2012-03-12  9:46           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 10:03             ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 10:26               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 11:29                 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 11:34                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 11:45                     ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 12:44                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 14:24                         ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 14:35                           ` Alon Levy
2012-03-12 11:23             ` Hans de Goede
2012-03-12 12:21               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 12:47             ` Yonit Halperin
2012-03-12 13:50               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 18:45                 ` Yonit Halperin
2012-03-13  6:40                   ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2012-03-13  6:52                     ` Yonit Halperin
2012-03-13  7:40                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-12 11:39           ` David Jaša
2012-03-12  8:42 ` Hans de Goede

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