From: Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com>
To: Ayal Baron <abaron@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
libvir-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Jiri Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>,
arch@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Modern CPU models cannot be used with libvirt
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:32:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F5F0620.6020004@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7491dd0-53ea-4776-b422-b79b025116f6@zmail13.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
On 03/12/2012 10:19 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> On 03/12/2012 02:12 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
>>> On 03/12/2012 09:01 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's a trade off. From a RAS perspective, it's helpful to have
>>>> information about the host available in the guest.
>>>>
>>>> If you're already exposing a compatible family, exposing the
>>>> actual
>>>> processor seems to be worth the extra effort.
>>>
>>> only if the entire cluster is (and will be?) identical cpu.
>>
>> At least in my experience, this isn't unusual.
>
> I can definitely see places choosing homogeneous hardware and upgrading every few years.
> Giving them max capabilities for their cluster sounds logical to me.
> Esp. cloud providers.
they would get same performance as from the matching "cpu family".
only difference would be if the guest known the name of the host cpu.
>
>>
>>> or if you don't care about live migration i guess, which could be
>>> hte case for
>>> clouds, then again, not sure a cloud provider would want to expose
>>> the physical
>>> cpu to the tenant.
>>
>> Depends on the type of cloud you're building, I guess.
>>
>
> Wouldn't this affect a simple startup of a VM with a different CPU (if motherboard changed as well cause reactivation issues in windows and fun things like that)?
that's an interesting question, I have to assume this works though,
since we didn't see issues with changing the cpu family for guests so far.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-13 8:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-15 14:54 [Qemu-devel] Modern CPU models cannot be used with libvirt Jiri Denemark
2011-12-15 14:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-15 15:30 ` Jiri Denemark
2011-12-18 10:07 ` Dor Laor
2011-12-15 15:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-12-18 9:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-09 20:56 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-09 21:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-09 21:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-10 4:37 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-11 11:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-10 12:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-10 15:58 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-10 18:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-10 18:37 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-10 22:39 ` Doug Goldstein
2012-03-11 0:55 ` Andrew Cathrow
2012-03-11 13:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 14:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 14:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 16:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 14:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 15:16 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 15:49 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 16:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 17:41 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 17:47 ` Peter Maydell
2012-03-12 17:53 ` Andreas Färber
2012-03-12 17:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 17:59 ` Alexander Graf
2012-03-12 17:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 18:30 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 18:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 18:53 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 19:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 19:12 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 19:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-12 20:00 ` Itamar Heim
2012-03-12 20:19 ` Ayal Baron
2012-03-13 8:32 ` Itamar Heim [this message]
2012-03-14 0:11 ` Ayal Baron
2012-03-12 12:52 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 13:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 13:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-12 13:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:50 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 13:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-12 14:01 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-11 12:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 14:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 15:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-11 15:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-11 16:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-12 13:08 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-13 14:53 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 9:32 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 13:31 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 14:30 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-22 15:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-25 10:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 13:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 16:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 16:00 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 16:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-22 17:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-22 20:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 9:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 12:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 13:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 13:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 14:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:46 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 14:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:16 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 15:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 18:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-26 9:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 9:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 19:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-28 9:55 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 16:34 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-26 11:24 ` Jiri Denemark
2012-03-26 11:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 12:03 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-26 16:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-26 19:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 14:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-03-25 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:18 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 15:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 15:45 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 18:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-25 18:09 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 19:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-28 9:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-20 18:59 ` Eduardo Habkost
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