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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>, Gerd Hoffman <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/9] qemu capabilities reporting and config changes
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:45:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F6762B3.6060807@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F6761CE.1090605@codemonkey.ws>

Il 19/03/2012 17:41, Anthony Liguori ha scritto:
> On 03/19/2012 11:33 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 19/03/2012 17:31, Anthony Liguori ha scritto:
>>>>> It also plumbs the existing command line options through QemuOpts via
>>>>> a special
>>>>> 'system' section.  This means that any command line option can be
>>>>> specified via
>>>>> readconfig and that the combination of -nodefconfig and -writeconfig
>>>>> should give
>>>>> you exactly the same guest in a repeatable fashion.
>>>>
>>>> I don't like this because it turns command-line options into ABI.
>>>
>>> It's already an ABI, no?
>>
>> Right, sorry.  Into configuration file ABI, which is supposed to be the
>> "cleaner" ABI.
> 
> Right, the basic premise of this series is "perfect is the enemy of
> good".  I think we do ourselves more harm than good trying to come up
> with a clean new interface instead of just cleaning up the bits behind
> what we previously had.

Yeah,it depends on what you consider good. :)  My direction was like
"let's cover 90% of the usecases with a decent syntax"; yours is "let's
cover 100% of the usecases even though the syntax may stink".

(There's time to convert -display before 1.1, which would make 99%).

>>>> Also, it puts there some options for which -writeconfig is actually
>>>> able to produce a QemuOpts equivalent, such as -monitor.
>>>
>>> That may be a bug depending on what your concern is.  Can you be more
>>> specific?
>>
>> If you write "-monitor stdio" with your series, do you get one or two
>> monitors in the resulting configuration file?
> 
> Two, I now understand what you're saying.  Let me look into fixing
> that.  This is more about -writeconfig.  We need to record the origin of
> a particular QemuOpt and have -writeconfig spit out only things that
> came from -readconfig.

I think it's simpler than that.  Just don't mark as gdef those options
that are backed internally by QemuOpts.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-19 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-19 15:09 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/9] qemu capabilities reporting and config changes Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 15:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] qemu-config: fix -writeconfig when using qemu_opt_set_bool Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 15:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/9] qemu-config: friends don't let friends use sscanf Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 15:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/9] vl: refactor command line parsing to allow options to be set via config Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 15:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/9] vl: mark system configuration options in qemu-options.hx Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 15:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] vl: enable system configuration to be used Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 15:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/9] vl: parse all options via QemuOpts Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 15:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/9] qmp: expose a command to query capabilities of config parser Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 20:10   ` Eric Blake
2012-03-19 20:19     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 20:31       ` Eric Blake
2012-03-19 20:41         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 15:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/9] vl: add -query-capabilities Anthony Liguori
2012-03-20  7:49   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-20 10:33     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-03-20 19:39   ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-03-19 15:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 9/9] Add a management tool writer's guide Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 16:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/9] qemu capabilities reporting and config changes Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-19 16:31   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 16:33     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-19 16:41       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 16:45         ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-03-19 16:53           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-19 17:03             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-20  7:54     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-20 19:47   ` Eduardo Habkost

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