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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Zhi Yong Wu <zwu.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Zhi Yong Wu <wuzhy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] block: add the support to drain throttled requests
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:31:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F707DCD.2010000@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QVQanABvr6Kv=fP8uMqQn_ZoN8hdSVeXYGxT4PmHgcWng@mail.gmail.com>

Am 26.03.2012 16:21, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi
> <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:58:10AM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>> Am 20.03.2012 10:47, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
>>>> Il 20/03/2012 10:40, Zhi Yong Wu ha scritto:
>>>>> HI, Kevin,
>>>>>
>>>>> We hope that I/O throttling can be shipped without known issue in QEMU
>>>>> 1.1, so if you are available, can you give this patch some love?
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry to say this, but I think I/O throttling is impossible to save.
>>>>  As it is implemented now, it just cannot work in the presence of
>>>> synchronous I/O, except at the cost of busy waiting with the global
>>>> mutex taken.  See the message from Stefan yesterday.
>>>
>>> qemu_aio_flush() is busy waiting with the global mutex taken anyway, so
>>> it doesn't change that much.
>>
>> Yesterday I only posted an analysis of the bug but here are some
>> thoughts on how to move forward.  Throttling itself is not the problem.
>> We've known that synchronous operations in the vcpu thread are a problem
>> long before throttling.  This is just another reason to convert device
>> emulation to use asynchronous interfaces.
>>
>> Here is the list of device models that perform synchronous block I/O:
>> hw/fdc.c
>> hw/ide/atapi.c
>> hw/ide/core.c
>> hw/nand.c
>> hw/onenand.c
>> hw/pflash_cfi01.c
>> hw/pflash_cfi02.c
>> hw/sd.c
>>
>> Zhi Hui Li is working on hw/fdc.c and recently sent a patch.
>>
>> I think it's too close to QEMU 1.1 to convert all the remaining devices
>> and test them properly before the soft-freeze.  But it's probably
>> possible to convert IDE before the soft-freeze.
>>
>> In the meantime we could add this to bdrv_rw_co():
>>
>> if (bs->io_limits_enabled) {
>>    fprintf(stderr, "Disabling I/O throttling on '%s' due "
>>            "to synchronous I/O\n", bdrv_get_device_name(bs));
>>    bdrv_io_limits_disable(bs);
>> }
>>
>> It's not pretty but tells the user there is an issue and avoids
>> deadlocking.
> 
> No one has commented on this suggestion.  I think leaving a known hang
> in QEMU 1.1 is undesirable.  Better to have this warning and disable
> throttling in the case we cannot support right now.
> 
> Kevin: Would you accept a patch like this?  Or do you have another
> solution in mind?

No, I don't have any clever short-term solution to offer. Put in
whatever hack you think works best for 1.1.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-26 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-13  1:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] block: add the support to drain throttled requests zwu.kernel
2012-03-20  9:40 ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-03-20  9:47   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-20  9:58     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-03-20 11:44       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-22 19:07         ` Chris Webb
2012-03-23 10:38           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-23 10:43             ` Chris Webb
2012-03-23 10:50               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-23 11:02                 ` Richard Davies
2012-03-23 11:32                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-23 16:56                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-26 14:21         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-26 14:31           ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2012-03-27  4:29           ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-03-27  6:52             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-20  9:56   ` Kevin Wolf

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