From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Memory API: handling unassigned physical memory
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 17:09:07 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F9FEE83.70306@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F9FEA24.3070603@codemonkey.ws>
On 05/01/2012 04:50 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 05/01/2012 08:01 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 05/01/2012 03:49 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> On 1 May 2012 13:48, Avi Kivity<avi@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> On 05/01/2012 03:43 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>>>> On 1 May 2012 13:42, Avi Kivity<avi@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>> sysbus should just die.
>>>>>
>>>>> Totally agreed. It's not going to go quietly though...
>>>>
>>>> Not if you keep suggesting workarounds when I tell unsuspecting
>>>> developers to qomify their devices.
>>>
>>> When QOM supports (1) exporting gpio signals and
>
> This is trivial. It'll come in as soon as 1.2 opens up. If folks
> want to start working on a branch with it:
>
> https://github.com/aliguori/qemu/tree/qom-pin.4
>
>>> (2) exporting memory regions, then it will be providing the
>>> main things that sysbus provides.
>
> This is a little tricky. Here's the problems I've encountered so far:
>
> a) A lot of devices need the equivalent of it_shift. it_shift affects
> how addresses are decoded and the size of the memory region. it_shift
> usually needs to be a device property.
>
> Since we need to know the size of the memory region to initialize it,
> we need to know the value of it_shift before we can initialize it
> which means we have to delay the initialization of the mmemory region
> until realize.
>
> I think a nice fix would be to make it_shift as memory region mutator
> and allow it to be set after initialization.
Indeed I wanted to make it_shift as part of the memory core. But a
mutator? It doesn't change in real hardware, so this looks artificial.
So far all mutators really change at runtime.
What is the problem with delaying region initialization until realize?
>
> b) There's some duplication in MemoryRegions with respect to QOM.
> Memory regions want to have a name but with QOM they'll be addressable
> via a path. I go back and forth about how aggressively we want to
> refactor MemoryRegions.
These days region names are purely for debugging. The ABI bit was moved
to a separate function.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
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2012-05-01 6:57 ` [Qemu-devel] Memory API: handling unassigned physical memory Blue Swirl
2012-05-01 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 18:48 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2012-05-02 15:15 ` Bob Breuer
2012-05-06 8:45 ` Blue Swirl
2012-05-06 8:41 ` Blue Swirl
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2012-05-01 7:10 ` Blue Swirl
2012-05-01 18:50 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2012-05-01 21:21 ` Andreas Färber
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2012-05-01 12:39 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 12:41 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 12:42 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 12:43 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 12:49 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 13:01 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 13:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 14:00 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 14:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 14:20 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 15:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 15:20 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 15:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 15:37 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 17:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 18:57 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2012-05-01 19:03 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 14:09 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-05-01 14:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 14:26 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 15:13 ` Anthony Liguori
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2012-05-01 12:41 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4F9E964A.1010408@ilande.co.uk>
2012-05-01 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
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