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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Memory API: handling unassigned physical memory
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 10:26:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FA000A3.80801@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA_W5dTRiW9kZRHJzT6uVVUofFNCPAm3uPqCObqkois5uQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 05/01/2012 10:20 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 1 May 2012 16:09, Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws>  wrote:
>> On 05/01/2012 09:20 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> This is a bit verbose. Something more like
>>>   pin_connect(s, "int_out[0]", self, "int_set[2]");
>>
>> This is incorrect, it would have to be:
>>
>> Error *err = NULL;
>>
>> if (pin_connect(s, "in_out[0]", self, "int_set[2]",&err)) {
>>    error_propagate(errp, err);
>>    return;
>>
>> }
>>
>>> would be a bit less longwinded. Or even
>>>   connect(TYPE_PIN, s, "int_out[0]", self, "int_set[2]");
>>
>>
>> Not checking for failure is not an option.
>
> The assumption is that failure to connect is a fatal error,
> and we can happily just assert()/hw_error()/etc.

So that means that we have a bug from someone miss-typing, instead of your 
hotplug attempt failing with an error, your entire guest is destroyed.  That 
doesn't sound very nice to me.

Device initialization should never exit() (unless you really hit a fatal error 
like OOM).

>>> (No, this doesn't do compile time type checking. I don't
>>> think that's a problem particularly, or at least not enough
>>> of one to justify not doing it this way. The object model we
>>> have is dynamic and does things at runtime...)
>>
>> Correctness is more important to me than brevity.
>>
>> And really, we should focus on killing things like i8259_init().
>
> Functions like i8259_init() exist precisely because
> QOM/qdev don't provide brevity and people trying to
> use these devices do in fact value brevity.

No, they exist because we aren't modeling correctly.

i8259_init() is doing a few different things at once.  Once you split things 
between init and realize, you no longer have long chunks of redundant code.

> That's why
> I want the standard native "connect this thing to this
> other thing" function to be short and simple.

With my previous proposal, it's just:

s->irq_in = &b->int_out[0];

This is why I like exposing public members in structures.  It's brief and safe.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> -- PMM

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-01 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4F9D797E.500@ilande.co.uk>
     [not found] ` <4F9D97F3.8080608@codemonkey.ws>
     [not found]   ` <4F9E5028.7010306@redhat.com>
     [not found]     ` <4F9E82C7.10706@ilande.co.uk>
     [not found]       ` <4F9E9268.70408@redhat.com>
     [not found]         ` <CAFEAcA_sKtzmHpFcdhkANLCY0=FuW0Hbof0ifp3uHM66NkWoOQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <4F9E9906.8060401@ilande.co.uk>
2012-05-01  6:57             ` [Qemu-devel] Memory API: handling unassigned physical memory Blue Swirl
2012-05-01 13:53               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 18:48               ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2012-05-02 15:15                 ` Bob Breuer
2012-05-06  8:45                   ` Blue Swirl
2012-05-06  8:41                 ` Blue Swirl
     [not found]             ` <CAFEAcA9VeJWPQ-LU=DvX6vp+=g44-uWda7zokK2NKfLiSkgGAg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <4F9EA2AD.9050208@ilande.co.uk>
2012-05-01  7:10                 ` Blue Swirl
2012-05-01 18:50                   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2012-05-01 21:21                     ` Andreas Färber
     [not found]           ` <4F9E9569.5000700@redhat.com>
     [not found]             ` <CAFEAcA_wFfsq=PwHAc_r-2bgdwUpSHaTOaL2VPVCJSs9x_JT6A@mail.gmail.com>
2012-05-01 12:39               ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 12:41                 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 12:42                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 12:43                     ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 12:48                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 12:49                         ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 13:01                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 13:50                             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 14:00                               ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 14:06                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 14:20                                   ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 15:09                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 15:20                                       ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 15:26                                         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-05-01 15:37                                           ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 17:21                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 18:57                                         ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2012-05-01 19:03                                           ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 14:09                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 14:15                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 14:26                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 15:13                                     ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]             ` <4F9E96EC.5080005@codemonkey.ws>
2012-05-01 12:41               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <4F9E964A.1010408@ilande.co.uk>
2012-05-01 12:46           ` Avi Kivity

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