From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Memory API: handling unassigned physical memory
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 10:26:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FA000A3.80801@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA_W5dTRiW9kZRHJzT6uVVUofFNCPAm3uPqCObqkois5uQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 05/01/2012 10:20 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 1 May 2012 16:09, Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
>> On 05/01/2012 09:20 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> This is a bit verbose. Something more like
>>> pin_connect(s, "int_out[0]", self, "int_set[2]");
>>
>> This is incorrect, it would have to be:
>>
>> Error *err = NULL;
>>
>> if (pin_connect(s, "in_out[0]", self, "int_set[2]",&err)) {
>> error_propagate(errp, err);
>> return;
>>
>> }
>>
>>> would be a bit less longwinded. Or even
>>> connect(TYPE_PIN, s, "int_out[0]", self, "int_set[2]");
>>
>>
>> Not checking for failure is not an option.
>
> The assumption is that failure to connect is a fatal error,
> and we can happily just assert()/hw_error()/etc.
So that means that we have a bug from someone miss-typing, instead of your
hotplug attempt failing with an error, your entire guest is destroyed. That
doesn't sound very nice to me.
Device initialization should never exit() (unless you really hit a fatal error
like OOM).
>>> (No, this doesn't do compile time type checking. I don't
>>> think that's a problem particularly, or at least not enough
>>> of one to justify not doing it this way. The object model we
>>> have is dynamic and does things at runtime...)
>>
>> Correctness is more important to me than brevity.
>>
>> And really, we should focus on killing things like i8259_init().
>
> Functions like i8259_init() exist precisely because
> QOM/qdev don't provide brevity and people trying to
> use these devices do in fact value brevity.
No, they exist because we aren't modeling correctly.
i8259_init() is doing a few different things at once. Once you split things
between init and realize, you no longer have long chunks of redundant code.
> That's why
> I want the standard native "connect this thing to this
> other thing" function to be short and simple.
With my previous proposal, it's just:
s->irq_in = &b->int_out[0];
This is why I like exposing public members in structures. It's brief and safe.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> -- PMM
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2012-05-01 6:57 ` [Qemu-devel] Memory API: handling unassigned physical memory Blue Swirl
2012-05-01 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 18:48 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2012-05-02 15:15 ` Bob Breuer
2012-05-06 8:45 ` Blue Swirl
2012-05-06 8:41 ` Blue Swirl
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2012-05-01 7:10 ` Blue Swirl
2012-05-01 18:50 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2012-05-01 21:21 ` Andreas Färber
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2012-05-01 12:39 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 12:41 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 12:42 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 12:43 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 12:49 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 13:01 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 13:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 14:00 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 14:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 14:20 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 15:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 15:20 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 15:26 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-05-01 15:37 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 17:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 18:57 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2012-05-01 19:03 ` Peter Maydell
2012-05-01 14:09 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 14:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 14:26 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-01 15:13 ` Anthony Liguori
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2012-05-01 12:41 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4F9E964A.1010408@ilande.co.uk>
2012-05-01 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
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