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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: libvir-list@redhat.com, Corey Bryant <coreyb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/5] block: File descriptor passing using -open-hook-fd
Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 10:20:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FA0EE41.6090303@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FA046C6.5080909@us.ibm.com>

Am 01.05.2012 22:25, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> Thanks for sending this out Stefan.
> 
> On 05/01/2012 10:31 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>> Libvirt can take advantage of SELinux to restrict the QEMU process and prevent
>> it from opening files that it should not have access to.  This improves
>> security because it prevents the attacker from escaping the QEMU process if
>> they manage to gain control.
>>
>> NFS has been a pain point for SELinux because it does not support labels (which
>> I believe are stored in extended attributes).  In other words, it's not
>> possible to use SELinux goodness on QEMU when image files are located on NFS.
>> Today we have to allow QEMU access to any file on the NFS export rather than
>> restricting specifically to the image files that the guest requires.
>>
>> File descriptor passing is a solution to this problem and might also come in
>> handy elsewhere.  Libvirt or another external process chooses files which QEMU
>> is allowed to access and provides just those file descriptors - QEMU cannot
>> open the files itself.
>>
>> This series adds the -open-hook-fd command-line option.  Whenever QEMU needs to
>> open an image file it sends a request over the given UNIX domain socket.  The
>> response includes the file descriptor or an errno on failure.  Please see the
>> patches for details on the protocol.
>>
>> The -open-hook-fd approach allows QEMU to support file descriptor passing
>> without changing -drive.  It also supports snapshot_blkdev and other commands
>> that re-open image files.
>>
>> Anthony Liguori<aliguori@us.ibm.com>  wrote most of these patches.  I added a
>> demo -open-hook-fd server and added some small fixes.  Since Anthony is
>> traveling right now I'm sending the RFC for discussion.
> 
> What I like about this approach is that it's useful outside the block layer and 
> is conceptionally simple from a QEMU PoV.  We simply delegate open() to libvirt 
> and let libvirt enforce whatever rules it wants.
> 
> This is not meant to be an alternative to blockdev, but even with blockdev, I 
> think we still want to use a mechanism like this even with blockdev.

What does it provide on top?

This doesn't look like something that I'd like a lot. qemu should be
able to continue to run no matter what the management tool does, whether
it responds to RPCs properly or whether it has crashed. You need a
really good use case for the RPC that cannot be covered otherwise in
order to justify this.

Kevin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-02  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-01 15:31 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/5] block: File descriptor passing using -open-hook-fd Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-01 15:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/5] block: add open() wrapper that can be hooked by libvirt Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-01 15:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/5] block: add new command line parameter that and protocol description Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-02  8:58   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-05-02  9:03   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-05-01 15:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 3/5] block: plumb up open-hook-fd option Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-01 15:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 4/5] osdep: add qemu_recvmsg() wrapper Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-01 15:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 5/5] Example -open-hook-fd server Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-01 16:04   ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-01 20:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/5] block: File descriptor passing using -open-hook-fd Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 20:56   ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Eric Blake
2012-05-01 21:52     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-02 16:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-01 21:45   ` [Qemu-devel] " Corey Bryant
2012-05-01 21:53     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-01 22:15       ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Eric Blake
2012-05-01 22:21         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-07 16:10         ` Corey Bryant
2012-05-02  8:20   ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2012-05-02  8:27     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-02  9:38       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-05-02  8:53     ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2012-05-02  9:45       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-05-02  9:56         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-05-02 19:25           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-03 19:19         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-02  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2012-05-04  3:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-17 13:42   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-17 13:57     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-17 14:02     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-18 10:38       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-17 14:14     ` Eric Blake
2012-05-18 10:38       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-07-09 20:00       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-09 20:29         ` Eric Blake
2012-07-09 20:46           ` Anthony Liguori

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