From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:03:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB1B95A.20209@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120515014204.GE30229@truffala.fritz.box>
On 05/14/2012 08:42 PM, David Gibson wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 07:49:16PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> [snip]
>>> +void iommu_wait_for_invalidated_maps(DMAContext *dma,
>>> + dma_addr_t addr, dma_addr_t len)
>>> +{
>>> + DMAMemoryMap *map;
>>> + DMAInvalidationState is;
>>> +
>>> + is.count = 0;
>>> + qemu_cond_init(&is.cond);
>>> +
>>> + QLIST_FOREACH(map,&dma->memory_maps, list) {
>>> + if (ranges_overlap(addr, len, map->addr, map->len)) {
>>> + is.count++;
>>> + map->invalidate =&is;
>>> + }
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> + if (is.count) {
>>> + qemu_cond_wait(&is.cond,&qemu_global_mutex);
>>> + }
>>> + assert(is.count == 0);
>>> +}
>>
>> I don't get what's going on here but I don't think it can possibly
>> be right. What is the purpose of this function?
>
> So. This is a function to be used by individual iommu
> implementations. When IOMMU mappings are updated on real hardware,
> there may be some lag in th effect, particularly for in-flight DMAs,
> due to shadow TLBs or other things. But generally, there will be some
> way to synchronize the IOMMU that once completed will ensure that no
> further DMA access to the old translations may occur. For the sPAPR
> TCE MMU, this actually happens after every PUT_TCE hcall.
>
> In our software implementation this is a problem if existing drivers
> have done a dma_memory_map() and haven't yet done a
> dma_memory_unmap(): they will have a real pointer to the translated
> memory which can't be intercepted. However, memory maps are supposed
> to be transient, so this helper function invalidates memory maps based
> on an IOVA address range, and blocks until they expire. This function
> would be called from CPU thread context, the dma_memory_unmap() would
> come from the IO thread (in the only existing case from AIO completion
> callbacks in the block IO code).
>
> This gives the IOMMU implementation a way of blocking the CPU
> initiating a sync operation until it really is safe to assume that no
> further DMA operations may hit the invalidated mappings. Note that if
> we actually hit the blocking path here, that almost certainly
> indicates the guest has done something wrong, or at least unusual -
So the CPU thread runs in lock-step with the I/O thread. Dropping the CPU
thread lock to let the I/O thread run is a dangerous thing to do in a place like
this.
Also, I think you'd effectively block the CPU until pending DMA operations
complete? This could be many, many, milliseconds, no? That's going to make
guests very upset.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> DMA devices should be stopped before removing their IOMMU mappings
> from under them. However, one of the points of the IOMMU is the
> ability to be able to forcibly stop DMAs, so we do need to implement
> this behaviour for that case.
>
> With difficulty, I've traced through qemu's difficult-to-follow thread
> synchronization logic and I'm about 75% convinced this works correctly
> with it.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-15 2:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-10 4:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] Better support for dma_addr_t variables Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] Implement cpu_physical_memory_zero() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 0:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 1:23 ` David Gibson
2012-05-15 2:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] iommu: Add universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] usb-ohci: Use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] iommu: Make sglists and dma_bdrv helpers use new universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] ide/ahci: Use universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 1:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13 - UPDATED] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] usb: Convert usb_packet_{map, unmap} to universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 0:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 1:42 ` David Gibson
2012-05-15 2:03 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-05-15 2:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 2:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 3:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 14:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 21:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 22:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 23:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 23:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 0:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 0:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 1:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 19:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] iommu: Add facility to cancel in-use dma memory maps Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] pseries: Convert sPAPR TCEs to use generic IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] iommu: Allow PCI to use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] pseries: Implement IOMMU and DMA for PAPR PCI devices Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 0:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 1:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 1:44 ` David Gibson
2012-05-16 4:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 5:51 ` David Gibson
2012-05-16 19:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 21:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 21:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 0:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 0:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 0:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 2:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-17 2:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 22:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-18 1:04 ` David Gibson
2012-05-18 1:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 3:35 ` David Gibson
2012-05-18 6:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18 8:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-18 8:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18 22:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-19 7:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-20 21:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 1:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 8:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 8:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 8:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 9:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 9:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 9:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 9:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 10:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 11:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 12:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 15:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 21:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 22:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 5:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 0:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 4:19 ` Rusty Russell
2012-05-21 22:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 23:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to DMA functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 4:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 7:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 11:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 11:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 12:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 21:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 21:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-15 0:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Anthony Liguori
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-06-19 6:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] iommu series Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-19 6:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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