From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 18:58:42 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB2EDB2.5050305@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1337123324.6727.101.camel@pasglop>
On 05/15/2012 06:08 PM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 17:02 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>> "6.2.1 Register Based Invalidation Interface
>> The register based invalidations provides a synchronous hardware interface for
>> invalidations. Software is expected to write to the IOTLB registers to submit
>> invalidation command and may poll on these registers to check for invalidation
>> completion. For optimal performance, hardware implementations are recommended to
>> complete an invalidation request with minimal latency"
>>
>> This makes perfect sense. You write to an MMIO location to request invalidation
>> and then *poll* on a separate register for completion.
>>
>> It's not a single MMIO operation that has an indefinitely return duration.
>
> Sure, it's an implementation detail, I never meant that it had to be a
> single blocking register access, all I said is that the HW must provide
> such a mechanism that is typically used synchronously by the operating
> system. Polling for completion is a perfectly legit way to do it, that's
> how we do it on the Apple G5 "DART" iommu as well.
>
> The fact that MMIO operations can block is orthogonal, it is possible
> however, especially with ancient PIO devices.
Even ancient PIO devices really don't block indefinitely.
> In our case (TCEs) it's a hypervisor call, not an MMIO op, so to some
> extent it's even more likely to do "blocking" things.
Yes, so I think the right thing to do is not model hypercalls for sPAPR as
synchronous calls but rather as asynchronous calls. Obviously, simply ones can
use a synchronous implementation...
This is a matter of setting hlt=1 before dispatching the hypercall and passing a
continuation to the call that when executed, prepare the CPUState for the
hypercall return and then set hlt=0 to resume the CPU.
> It would have been possible to implement a "busy" return status with the
> guest having to try again, unfortunately that's not how Linux has
> implemented it, so we are stuck with the current semantics.
>
> Now, if you think that dropping the lock isn't good, what do you reckon
> I should do ?
Add a reference count to dma map calls and a flush_pending flag. If
flush_pending && ref > 0, return NULL for all map calls.
Decrement ref on unmap and if ref = 0 and flush_pending, clear flush_pending.
You could add a flush_notifier too for this event.
dma_flush() sets flush_pending if ref > 0. Your TCE flush hypercall would
register for flush notifications and squirrel away the hypercall completion
continuation.
VT-d actually has a concept of a invalidation completion queue which delivers
interrupt based notification of invalidation completion events. The above
flush_notify would be the natural way to support this since in this case, there
is no VCPU event that's directly involved in the completion event.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Cheers,
> Ben.
>
>
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Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-10 4:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] Better support for dma_addr_t variables Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] Implement cpu_physical_memory_zero() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 0:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 1:23 ` David Gibson
2012-05-15 2:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] iommu: Add universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] usb-ohci: Use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] iommu: Make sglists and dma_bdrv helpers use new universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] ide/ahci: Use universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 1:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13 - UPDATED] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] usb: Convert usb_packet_{map, unmap} to universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 0:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 1:42 ` David Gibson
2012-05-15 2:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 2:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 2:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 3:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 14:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 21:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 22:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 23:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 23:58 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-05-16 0:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 0:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 1:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 19:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] iommu: Add facility to cancel in-use dma memory maps Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] pseries: Convert sPAPR TCEs to use generic IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] iommu: Allow PCI to use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] pseries: Implement IOMMU and DMA for PAPR PCI devices Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 0:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 1:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 1:44 ` David Gibson
2012-05-16 4:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 5:51 ` David Gibson
2012-05-16 19:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 21:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 21:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 0:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 0:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 0:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 2:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-17 2:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 22:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-18 1:04 ` David Gibson
2012-05-18 1:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 3:35 ` David Gibson
2012-05-18 6:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18 8:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-18 8:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18 22:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-19 7:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-20 21:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 1:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 8:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 8:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 8:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 9:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 9:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 9:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 9:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 10:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 11:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 12:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 15:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 21:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 22:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 5:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 0:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 4:19 ` Rusty Russell
2012-05-21 22:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 23:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to DMA functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 4:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 7:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 11:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 11:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 12:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 21:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 21:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-15 0:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Anthony Liguori
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-06-19 6:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] iommu series Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-19 6:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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