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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 18:58:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB2EDB2.5050305@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1337123324.6727.101.camel@pasglop>

On 05/15/2012 06:08 PM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 17:02 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>> "6.2.1 Register Based Invalidation Interface
>> The register based invalidations provides a synchronous hardware interface for
>> invalidations.  Software is expected to write to the IOTLB registers to submit
>> invalidation command and may poll on these registers to check for invalidation
>> completion. For optimal performance, hardware implementations are recommended to
>> complete an invalidation request with minimal latency"
>>
>> This makes perfect sense.  You write to an MMIO location to request invalidation
>> and then *poll* on a separate register for completion.
>>
>> It's not a single MMIO operation that has an indefinitely return duration.
>
> Sure, it's an implementation detail, I never meant that it had to be a
> single blocking register access, all I said is that the HW must provide
> such a mechanism that is typically used synchronously by the operating
> system. Polling for completion is a perfectly legit way to do it, that's
> how we do it on the Apple G5 "DART" iommu as well.
>
> The fact that MMIO operations can block is orthogonal, it is possible
> however, especially with ancient PIO devices.

Even ancient PIO devices really don't block indefinitely.

> In our case (TCEs) it's a hypervisor call, not an MMIO op, so to some
> extent it's even more likely to do "blocking" things.

Yes, so I think the right thing to do is not model hypercalls for sPAPR as 
synchronous calls but rather as asynchronous calls.  Obviously, simply ones can 
use a synchronous implementation...

This is a matter of setting hlt=1 before dispatching the hypercall and passing a 
continuation to the call that when executed, prepare the CPUState for the 
hypercall return and then set hlt=0 to resume the CPU.

> It would have been possible to implement a "busy" return status with the
> guest having to try again, unfortunately that's not how Linux has
> implemented it, so we are stuck with the current semantics.
>
> Now, if you think that dropping the lock isn't good, what do you reckon
> I should do ?

Add a reference count to dma map calls and a flush_pending flag.  If 
flush_pending && ref > 0, return NULL for all map calls.

Decrement ref on unmap and if ref = 0 and flush_pending, clear flush_pending. 
You could add a flush_notifier too for this event.

dma_flush() sets flush_pending if ref > 0.  Your TCE flush hypercall would 
register for flush notifications and squirrel away the hypercall completion 
continuation.

VT-d actually has a concept of a invalidation completion queue which delivers 
interrupt based notification of invalidation completion events.  The above 
flush_notify would be the natural way to support this since in this case, there 
is no VCPU event that's directly involved in the completion event.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Cheers,
> Ben.
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-15 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-10  4:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] Better support for dma_addr_t variables Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] Implement cpu_physical_memory_zero() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  0:42   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  1:23     ` David Gibson
2012-05-15  2:03       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] iommu: Add universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] usb-ohci: Use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] iommu: Make sglists and dma_bdrv helpers use new universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] ide/ahci: Use universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  1:51   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13 - UPDATED] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] usb: Convert usb_packet_{map, unmap} to universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  0:49   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  1:42     ` David Gibson
2012-05-15  2:03       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  2:32         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  2:50           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  3:02             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 14:02               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 21:55                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 22:02                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 23:08                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 23:58                       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-05-16  0:41                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16  0:54                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16  1:20                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 19:36                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] iommu: Add facility to cancel in-use dma memory maps Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] pseries: Convert sPAPR TCEs to use generic IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] iommu: Allow PCI to use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] pseries: Implement IOMMU and DMA for PAPR PCI devices Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  0:52   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  1:11     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  1:44     ` David Gibson
2012-05-16  4:35       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16  5:51         ` David Gibson
2012-05-16 19:39         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 21:10           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 21:12             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  0:07           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  0:24             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  0:52               ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  2:28                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-17  2:44                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 22:09                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-18  1:04                       ` David Gibson
2012-05-18  1:16                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  3:35                   ` David Gibson
2012-05-18  6:53               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18  8:18                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-18  8:57                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18 22:26                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-19  7:24                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-20 21:36                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  1:56                           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  8:11                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21  8:31                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21  8:58                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  9:07                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  9:16                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  9:34                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21  9:53                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 10:31                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 11:45                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 12:18                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 15:16                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 21:58                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:22                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 22:56                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  5:11                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22  0:00                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  4:19                                                   ` Rusty Russell
2012-05-21 22:18                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:26                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:31                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:44                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 23:02                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  4:34                                         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to DMA functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  4:51                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  7:17                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 11:14                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 11:41                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 12:03                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 21:24                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 21:40                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:37                                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-15  0:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Anthony Liguori
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-06-19  6:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] iommu series Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-19  6:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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