From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46459) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXuMB-00052B-3C for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 09:15:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXuM6-0000a4-56 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 09:15:02 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:47978) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SXuM5-0000Zu-Sx for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 09:14:58 -0400 Message-ID: <4FBF85BF.6050403@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 15:14:39 +0200 From: Paolo Bonzini MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1337882362-20100-1-git-send-email-zwu.kernel@gmail.com> <20120524175321.31254444@doriath.home> <20120525100753.GD30110@stefanha-thinkpad.localdomain> <20120525095313.116f680f@doriath.home> <4FBF822D.9090707@redhat.com> <20120525100746.51d7bf28@doriath.home> In-Reply-To: <20120525100746.51d7bf28@doriath.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Luiz Capitulino Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi , kvm@vger.kernel.org, Stefan Hajnoczi , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster , zwu.kernel@gmail.com, wuzhy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, jan.kiszka@siemens.com Il 25/05/2012 15:07, Luiz Capitulino ha scritto: > On Fri, 25 May 2012 14:59:25 +0200 > Paolo Bonzini wrote: > >> Il 25/05/2012 14:53, Luiz Capitulino ha scritto: >>>>> I agree it would be nice to drop entirely but I don't feel happy doing >>>>> that to users who might have QEMU buried in scripts somewhere. One >>>>> day they upgrade packages and suddenly their stuff doesn't work >>>>> anymore. >>> This is very similar to kqemu and I don't think we regret having dropped it. >> >> It's not. kqemu was putting maintainance burden, the aim of this patch >> is exactly to isolate the feature to command-line parsing and a magic >> net client. If you don't use -net, the new code is absolutely dead, >> unlike kqemu. > > Let me quote Stefan on this thread: > > """ > The point of this patch series is to remove the special-case net.c code > for the legacy "vlan" feature. Today's code makes it harder to > implement a clean QOM model and is a burden for the net subsystem in > general > """ Still not sure what you mean... we removed kqemu and didn't give an alternative. This time we are providing an alternative. Paolo