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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/24] per-directory Makefile snippets, limit vpath abuse
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:57:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FCBEBE8.9060600@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FCBE7D1.80907@suse.de>

On 06/04/2012 06:40 AM, Andreas Färber wrote:
> Am 03.06.2012 14:25, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
>> One source of complexity in the QEMU source is that we have a very
>> shallow tree for a source code of over 750,000 lines of code.  In
>> fact, one third of these lines alone is in one directory, hw/.
>>
>> As a prerequisite to cleaning up the structure, but as a worthwhile
>> step on its own, this patchset cleans up the build system so that
>> separate directories have their own Makefile snippet.  As in the Linux
>> kernel build system, the overall build system is generally flat (in
>> the case of QEMU, with one recursive invocation per emulation target).
>> Subdirectories do not include complete Makefiles, instead they only host
>> the declarations for a few variables (common-obj-y, universal-obj-y,
>> obj-y, etc.).  Definitions for all the directories are merged with a
>> little GNU Make magic (not much, only 20 lines).
>>
>> Two nice side effects are:
>>
>> - we can match the source tree and the object tree (for example the
>>    per-target device models will be in XYZ-softmmu/hw, not in
>>    XYZ-softmmu; those that are compiled once will be in hw/ rather
>>    than in the root).
>>
>> - because the resolution of nested makefiles tracks the nested
>>    directory, there is no need to use VPATH to find sources in
>>    the hw/ and target-*/ directory.
>>
>> - there is a lot less Makefile programming (conditionals, addprefix,
>>    etc.), replaced by only 20 lines in rules.mak and 1 in Makefile.objs.
>>
>> The series is entirely bisectable, and mostly consists of boring patches.
>> If the concept is accepted, I would like to get it in as soon as possible.
>> I have a few other cleanups on top (I stopped once I undid the diffstat
>> of this series :)), but they can be covered later.
>>
>> Thoughts, approvals, rejections?
>
> As before, I dislike the use of the filename "Makefile" for files that
> are not self-contained. If make is called from that deep directory, it
> leads to undefined results. Either we must make sure through some clever
> ifeq'ery and a local "all" target that such an attempt fails, or better
> use a filename that is recognized by editors as Makefile syntax but not
> used by make without explicit -f, e.g., foo.mak.

Linux does this.  I think it's expected behavior at this point.  In the long 
term, we should either move to kconfig or autoconf so trying to act like one of 
the two seems like a good idea to me.

> Note that I have been working on moving some more files from
> Makefile.target to Makefile.objs for compilation into libhw{32,64}. I'll
> defer that if people agree this is the way to restructure.
>
> Anthony had been talking about restructuring hw/ into a more Linux-like
> directory structure. Any update on that, Anthony?

Yes, I had a similar (but uglier) patch to this that was a pre-req.  This 
approach is much better though.  I'd like to get this applied ASAP so we can 
start shuffling things around.

BTW, we should change the build rules in rules.mak too such that they create 
output directories on demand.  Then we can add new subdirectories without 
touching configure which is a bit annoyance right now.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-03 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-03 12:25 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/24] per-directory Makefile snippets, limit vpath abuse Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/24] remove trace-nested-y Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/24] do not sprinkle around GENERATED_HEADERS dependencies Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/24] add rules for nesting Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/24] move *-user/ objects to nested Makefile Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/24] move obj-TARGET-y variables " Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/24] move libobj-y variable " Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 13:42   ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-03 17:32     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/24] move other target-*/ objects to nested Makefiles Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/24] move rules for nesting to Makefile.objs Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/24] use nested Makefile rules for qom/ objects Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/24] move block/ objects to nested Makefile Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/24] move net/ " Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 13:44   ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/24] move fsdev/ " Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 13:32   ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/24] move ui/ " Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/24] move audio/ " Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 13:33   ` Blue Swirl
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/24] move slirp/ " Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/24] move qapi/ " Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/24] move qga/ " Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/24] move target-independent hw/ objects to nested Makefiles Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/24] convert libhw " Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-04 18:08   ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-05  6:30     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/24] move per-target hw/ objects " Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/24] move device tree to per-target Makefile Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/24] libcacard Makefile cleanups Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/24] limit usage of vpath Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 24/24] compile oslib-obj-y once Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 13:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/24] per-directory Makefile snippets, limit vpath abuse Blue Swirl
2012-06-03 17:34   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 22:40 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-03 22:57   ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-06-04  6:36     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-04 18:52       ` Lluís Vilanova
2012-06-04 18:58         ` Eric Blake
2012-06-05 14:05           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-03 22:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-04 16:02 ` Lluís Vilanova

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