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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, jan.kiszka@siemens.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	zwu.kernel@gmail.com, wuzhy@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 12:48:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FCC3E00.7080004@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3ehq3tne0.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

On 05/29/2012 04:14 PM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Luiz Capitulino<lcapitulino@redhat.com>  writes:
>
>> On Mon, 28 May 2012 12:17:04 +0100
>> Stefan Hajnoczi<stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> What we need to decide is whether it's okay to drop QEMU "VLANs"
>>> completely and change dump command-line syntax?
>>
>> I'd vote for dropping it.
>>
>>> I think vlan-hub doesn't hurt anyone because the code has been isolated
>>> and we keep backwards compatibility.  So I'd personally still go the
>>> vlan-hub route for QEMU 1.x.
>>
>> Just to make it clear: I'm not against this series. I'm against having
>> the functionality in qemu. If we want to keep the functionality, then I
>> completely agree that this series is the way to go.
>
> I agree with Luiz: if we want to reimplement that much of networking
> within QEMU, this series does it in a much better way than VLANs, but
> I'd rather not do it at all.
>
> Just advice, not a strong objection.

Doesn't the same logic apply to reimplementing file systems?  Shouldn't we drop 
qcow3 in favor of using btrfs?

It's easy to make the NIH argument when it's a feature you don't care about.

A lot of people use vlans.  It's the only way -net socket is useful too.  Just 
because most KVM/libvirt users don't doesn't mean they aren't an important 
feature to preserve.

I would strongly nack any attempt to remove vlans w/o providing some mechanism 
for backwards compatibility which is exactly what this patch series does.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-04  4:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-24 17:59 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 01/16] net: Add a hub net client zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 02/16] net: Use hubs for the vlan feature zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 03/16] net: Look up 'vlan' net clients using hubs zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 04/16] hub: Check that hubs are configured correctly zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 05/16] net: Drop vlan argument to qemu_new_net_client() zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 06/16] net: Remove vlan qdev property zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 07/16] net: Remove vlan code from net.c zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 08/16] net: Remove VLANState zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 09/16] net: Rename non_vlan_clients to net_clients zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 10/16] net: Rename VLANClientState to NetClientState zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 11/16] net: Rename vc local variables to nc zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 12/16] net: Rename qemu_del_vlan_client() to qemu_del_net_client() zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 13/16] net: Make the monitor output more reasonable hub info zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 20:34   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-05-25  0:48     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-25 12:00     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-25 13:49       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-05-25 13:58         ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 14/16] net: cleanup deliver/deliver_iov func pointers zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 15/16] net: determine if packets can be sent before net queue deliver packets zwu.kernel
2012-05-24 17:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 16/16] hub: add the support for hub own flow control zwu.kernel
2012-05-25  7:04   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25  7:48     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-25 10:08       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 10:54         ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-25  8:04     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-25  8:18     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-24 20:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/16] net: hub-based networking Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-25  0:47   ` Zhi Yong Wu
2012-05-25 12:49     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-25 10:07   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-25 11:18     ` Markus Armbruster
2012-05-25 12:01       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-25 12:30         ` Markus Armbruster
2012-05-25 12:53         ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-25 12:59           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 13:07             ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-25 13:14               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 13:18                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-25 13:19                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 13:30                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-25 13:37                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 13:43                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-25 13:47                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-25 13:56                             ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-05-28 11:17                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-05-28 13:25                                 ` Luiz Capitulino
     [not found]                                   ` <m3ehq3tne0.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>
2012-06-04  4:48                                     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-06-04  7:24                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2012-06-04  4:56           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-04 13:09             ` Luiz Capitulino

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