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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Yonit Halperin <yhalperi@redhat.com>,
	aliguori@us.ibm.com, alevy@redhat.com,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/5] asynchronous migration state change handlers
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:37:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FCE7C21.6040108@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FCE0BBA.2010807@redhat.com>

On 06/05/2012 09:38 PM, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 06/05/2012 07:15 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>>    Hi,
>>
>>> Absolutely not.  This is hideously ugly and affects a bunch of code.
>>>
>>> Spice is *not* getting a hook in migration where it gets to add
>>> arbitrary amounts of downtime to the migration traffic.  That's a
>>> terrible idea.
>>>
>
>> So, the big question is how to tackle the issue?
>>
>> Option (1): Wait until spice-server is done before signaling completion
>> to libvirt.  This is what this patch series implements.
>>
>> Advantage is that it is completely transparent for libvirt, thats why I
>> like it.
>>
>> Disadvantage is that it indeed adds a small delay for the spice-server
>> handshake.  The target qemu doesn't process main loop events while the
>> incoming migration is running, and because of that the spice-server
>> handshake doesn't run in parallel with the final stage of vm migration,
>> which it could in theory.
>>
>> BTW: There will be no "arbitrary amounts of downtime".  Seamless spice
>> client migration is pretty pointless if it doesn't finish within a
>> fraction of a second, so we can go with a very short timeout there.
>>
>> Option (2): Add a new QMP event which is emmitted when spice-server is
>> done, then make libvirt wait for it before killing qemu.
>>
>> Obvious disadvantage is that it requires libvirt changes.
>
> But there was recently a proposal for a new monitor command that will
> let libvirt query which events a given qemu supports, and therefore
> libvirt can at least know in advance whether to expect and wait for the
> event, or to fall back to some other option.  Just because libvirt would
> require a change doesn't necessarily rule out this option.

Right, this approach sounds much, much better to me too because it doesn't 
affect migration downtime.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
>>
>> Option (3): Your suggestion?
>>
>> thanks,
>>    Gerd
>>
>>
>>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-05 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-05  5:49 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/5] asynchronous migration state change handlers Yonit Halperin
2012-06-05  5:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/5] notifiers: add support for async notifiers handlers Yonit Halperin
2012-06-05  8:36   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-05  5:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/5] migration: moving migration start code to a separated routine Yonit Halperin
2012-06-05  8:44   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-05  5:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/5] migration: moving migration completion " Yonit Halperin
2012-06-05  8:46   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-05  5:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/5] migration: replace migration state change notifier with async notifiers Yonit Halperin
2012-06-05  5:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 5/5] spice: turn spice "migration end" handler to be async Yonit Halperin
2012-06-05 11:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/5] asynchronous migration state change handlers Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 13:15   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-05 13:38     ` Eric Blake
2012-06-05 21:37       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-06-06  9:10     ` Yonit Halperin
2012-06-06  9:22       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 10:54         ` Alon Levy
2012-06-06 11:05           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 11:27             ` Alon Levy
2012-06-06 11:49               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 12:01         ` Yonit Halperin
2012-06-06 12:08           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 12:15             ` Alon Levy
2012-06-06 12:17               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 12:30                 ` Alon Levy
2012-06-06 12:34                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 13:03                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-06 14:52                     ` Alon Levy
2012-06-06 15:00                       ` Gerd Hoffmann

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