From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Yonit Halperin <yhalperi@redhat.com>,
aliguori@us.ibm.com, alevy@redhat.com,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/5] asynchronous migration state change handlers
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 05:37:37 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FCE7C21.6040108@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FCE0BBA.2010807@redhat.com>
On 06/05/2012 09:38 PM, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 06/05/2012 07:15 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Absolutely not. This is hideously ugly and affects a bunch of code.
>>>
>>> Spice is *not* getting a hook in migration where it gets to add
>>> arbitrary amounts of downtime to the migration traffic. That's a
>>> terrible idea.
>>>
>
>> So, the big question is how to tackle the issue?
>>
>> Option (1): Wait until spice-server is done before signaling completion
>> to libvirt. This is what this patch series implements.
>>
>> Advantage is that it is completely transparent for libvirt, thats why I
>> like it.
>>
>> Disadvantage is that it indeed adds a small delay for the spice-server
>> handshake. The target qemu doesn't process main loop events while the
>> incoming migration is running, and because of that the spice-server
>> handshake doesn't run in parallel with the final stage of vm migration,
>> which it could in theory.
>>
>> BTW: There will be no "arbitrary amounts of downtime". Seamless spice
>> client migration is pretty pointless if it doesn't finish within a
>> fraction of a second, so we can go with a very short timeout there.
>>
>> Option (2): Add a new QMP event which is emmitted when spice-server is
>> done, then make libvirt wait for it before killing qemu.
>>
>> Obvious disadvantage is that it requires libvirt changes.
>
> But there was recently a proposal for a new monitor command that will
> let libvirt query which events a given qemu supports, and therefore
> libvirt can at least know in advance whether to expect and wait for the
> event, or to fall back to some other option. Just because libvirt would
> require a change doesn't necessarily rule out this option.
Right, this approach sounds much, much better to me too because it doesn't
affect migration downtime.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
>>
>> Option (3): Your suggestion?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Gerd
>>
>>
>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-05 21:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-05 5:49 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/5] asynchronous migration state change handlers Yonit Halperin
2012-06-05 5:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/5] notifiers: add support for async notifiers handlers Yonit Halperin
2012-06-05 8:36 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-05 5:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/5] migration: moving migration start code to a separated routine Yonit Halperin
2012-06-05 8:44 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-05 5:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/5] migration: moving migration completion " Yonit Halperin
2012-06-05 8:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-05 5:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/5] migration: replace migration state change notifier with async notifiers Yonit Halperin
2012-06-05 5:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 5/5] spice: turn spice "migration end" handler to be async Yonit Halperin
2012-06-05 11:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/5] asynchronous migration state change handlers Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 13:15 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-05 13:38 ` Eric Blake
2012-06-05 21:37 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-06-06 9:10 ` Yonit Halperin
2012-06-06 9:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 10:54 ` Alon Levy
2012-06-06 11:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 11:27 ` Alon Levy
2012-06-06 11:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 12:01 ` Yonit Halperin
2012-06-06 12:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 12:15 ` Alon Levy
2012-06-06 12:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 12:30 ` Alon Levy
2012-06-06 12:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 13:03 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-06 14:52 ` Alon Levy
2012-06-06 15:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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