From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@au1.ibm.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
li zhang <zhlcindy@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, zhlcindy@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [qemu-devel][RFC] Enable usb with default options
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:50:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FD07971.1020205@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1339060579.24838.19.camel@pasglop>
Hi,
On 06/07/2012 11:16 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 10:52 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>> At least that would improve the situation in the long run...
>>>
>>> Side note: It might be able to add an option at least to OHCI and EHCI
>>> to relax a bit the correctness of the emulation and dramatically reduce
>>> the number of exits.
>>>
>>> One way to do that is to simply reduce the timer by a factor of 10 or
>>> 100 (and increment frame numbers in bulk). This could be reasonably
>>> safely done when SOF interrupts aren't enabled, especially when only HID
>>> devices are on the bus. We could alternatively schedule additional
>>> arbitrary frames in between whenever a HID event is actually present.
>>>
>>
>> We (me and Gerd Hoffmann) have investigated that, and experimented with it.
>> It will work for simply devices, but isochronous devices break. The real
>> solution at least for x86 vms is to get the XHCI emulation finished, as
>> the XHCI controller has a much nicer hw interface from an emulation pov,
>> and it can handle usb 1-3 devices.
>
> I absolutely agree, but it will take some time for xhci to trickle
> (especially since most powerpc distros today don't have it guest side,
> we only recently endian-fixed the driver).
>
> In the meantime, this approach you experimented with would be very
> useful for us in the common case where there is no isochronous device.
> It shouldn't be too hard for the emulator to switch back to "normal"
> frames if an ISO EP is present, no ?
That should be possible yes. Note though that although slowing down the
timer will only break isoc. stuff, it will for example also slow down
usb mass storage devices.
> That would solve the 99% case of just keyboard and mouse on all those
> machines.
>
> Do you have some patches around from those earlier experiments that we
> could try to revive, at least for OHCI ?
No, I only did this for EHCI, which may still have an option to enable
this today. Gerd may have done this for UHCI too, Gerd ?
Regards,
Hans
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-07 9:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-05 9:48 [Qemu-devel] [qemu-devel][RFC] Enable usb with default options li zhang
2012-06-06 2:52 ` li zhang
2012-06-06 3:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-06 5:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 6:03 ` li zhang
2012-06-06 21:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-07 1:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-07 3:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-07 3:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-07 4:52 ` li zhang
2012-06-07 4:39 ` li zhang
2012-06-07 4:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-07 4:53 ` li zhang
2012-06-07 8:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2012-06-07 9:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-07 10:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2012-06-07 11:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-12 8:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2012-06-07 8:32 ` Hans de Goede
2012-06-07 8:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-07 8:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-07 8:52 ` Hans de Goede
2012-06-07 9:05 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-07 9:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-07 9:29 ` Li Zhang
2012-06-07 9:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-07 9:50 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2012-06-07 11:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-07 11:35 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-07 8:54 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-06 22:14 ` Andreas Färber
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2012-06-05 7:19 Li Zhang
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