From: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
aliguori@us.ibm.com, quintela@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
owasserm@redhat.com, akong@redhat.com, yamahata@valinux.co.jp
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/17] qidl: add QEMU IDL processor
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:04:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FD5A684.608@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FD5A4BA.5020005@suse.de>
Am 11.06.2012 09:56, schrieb Andreas Färber:
> Am 11.06.2012 09:20, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
>> Il 11/06/2012 09:13, Andreas Färber ha scritto:
>>>>>>> +The first step is to move your device struct definition to a header file. This
>>>>>>> +header file should only contain the struct definition and any preprocessor
>>>>>>> +declarations you need to define the structure. This header file will act as
>>>>>>> +the source for the QC IDL compiler.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think this is a fantastic idea -- the device struct should be
>>>>> private to the device, and having it in a standalone header file is
>>>>> asking for users of the device to illicitly include it and access
>>>>> internals that they shouldn't.
>>> But that is exactly where realize is headed. PCIBus, a9mp_priv etc.
>>> structs will need to be made public so that they can be embedded.
>>
>> I thought that was just a convenience choice, not a necessity. The
>> children objects could just as well be heap-allocated.
>
> In that case we'd need to change the instance_init signature. As far as
> I've understood from our discussions with Anthony, realize must not
> allocate new objects because that may collide with the recursive realize
> model, and instance_init is not supposed to fail. Thus the in-place init
> demonstrated for i440fx and now adopted for prep_pci and my tegra2.
> Saying "the device struct should be private to the device" leaves
> virtually no choice, whether for convenience or necessity, and requires
> also suggesting a design solution for QOM initialization.
Forgot to mention that this has nothing to do with child<> properties.
It's about composition, i.e. instantiating on object without needing to
know about its inner structure - paradoxically this needs that inner
structure to be exposed even if not accessed.
Andreas
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Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-05 1:00 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Use QEMU IDL for device serialization/vmstate Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/17] qidl: add QEMU IDL processor Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 9:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 9:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 10:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 16:21 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 19:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-05 23:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 5:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-06 5:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 7:30 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 10:00 ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-05 10:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11 7:13 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11 7:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-11 7:56 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11 7:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-11 9:02 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-11 8:04 ` Andreas Färber [this message]
2012-06-11 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11 13:37 ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-11 13:09 ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-05 10:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 12:19 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-06-05 23:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 7:19 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 21:11 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-06 7:31 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 21:36 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-07 7:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 23:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 1:25 ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-06 7:45 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 8:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 8:37 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 8:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 8:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 9:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 9:58 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 11:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 11:25 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-06 23:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/17] qidl: add qc definitions Michael Roth
2012-06-05 9:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 10:35 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-05 11:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 11:26 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-05 11:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 14:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-05 21:44 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 23:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/17] qapi: add visitor interfaces for arrays Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/17] qapi: QmpOutputVisitor, implement array handling Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/17] qapi: qapi-visit.py, support arrays and complex qapi definitions Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/17] qapi: qapi-visit.py, add gen support for existing types Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] qapi: add open-coded visitors for QEMUTimer/struct tm types Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/17] rtc: move RTCState declaration to header Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] rtc: add qc annotations Michael Roth
2012-06-05 10:25 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 10:40 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-05 12:42 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 22:07 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] Makefile: add infrastructure to incorporate qidl-generated files Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] qapi: add qidl-generated qapi schema for rtc Michael Roth
2012-06-05 9:29 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-05 16:03 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-06 7:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-06 22:40 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 10:11 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/17] rtc: add a QOM property for accessing device state Michael Roth
2012-06-05 14:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-05 17:54 ` Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/17] rtc: add _version() qidl annotations Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/17] qidl: add qidl-based generation of vmstate field bindings Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/17] Makefile: add qidl-generation of vmstate field descriptions Michael Roth
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] qidl: add qidl-generated vmstate fields for rtc Michael Roth
2012-06-05 10:26 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 23:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-06 7:47 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-05 1:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/17] rtc: use qidl-generated vmstate bindings Michael Roth
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