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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Semantics of DeviceState::realized and BlockDriverState
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:26:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FD69AC2.8040903@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FD68D52.8020304@suse.de>

On 06/11/2012 07:29 PM, Andreas Färber wrote:
> Am 12.06.2012 00:05, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>> I think I'm becoming convinced that realized belongs in DeviceState and
>> that BlockDriverState does not have a realized equivalent.
>
>> To me, realized represents Vcc.  When realized=true, the guest has power
>> and is active.  When realized=false, the guest has lost power.  The
>> realize() event is the rising edge of Vcc, unrealized() is the falling
>> edge.
>
> Then please name it appropriately: "powered" and "unpowered".
>
> Realization has nothing to do with power, it's an OOP term that
> distinguishes from instantiation.

Eh?  I'm not familiar with it as a OOP term.

> The way this discussion has headed is very unfortunate for me since I
> need such a hook for the CPUs today and not in a far future when the
> whole of qdev has been refactored to match the QOM type / inheritance

I warned you early on that CPUs were not the best place to start...

I think the fundamental problem is that CPU wants to be a TYPE_DEVICE.  We 
probably shouldn't have started with it as TYPE_OBJECT.

I think that's really the immediate problem that needs to be solved.  I think 
avoiding making it TYPE_DEVICE is what's caused us to attempt to push realized 
into Object in the first place.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-12  1:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-11 22:05 [Qemu-devel] Semantics of DeviceState::realized and BlockDriverState Anthony Liguori
2012-06-12  0:29 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-12  1:26   ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-06-12  6:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-12  8:07   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-12  8:02 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-13 12:53 ` Markus Armbruster
2012-06-13 12:55   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-13 13:18   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-13 15:44   ` Kevin Wolf

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