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From: Zhi Hui Li <zhihuili@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: jcody@redhat.com
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Supriya Kannery <supriyak@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	zhihuili@cn.ibm.com, Taisuke Yamada <tai@rakugaki.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] CoW image commit+shrink(= make_empty) support
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:23:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FD9F3E8.8080306@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FD610B9.8070507@redhat.com>

On 2012年06月11日 23:37, Jeff Cody wrote:
> On 06/11/2012 10:24 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Kevin Wolf<kwolf@redhat.com>  wrote:
>>> Am 11.06.2012 14:09, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Jeff Cody<jcody@redhat.com>  wrote:
>>>>> On 06/08/2012 12:11 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>>>>> Am 08.06.2012 16:32, schrieb Jeff Cody:
>>>>>>> On 06/08/2012 09:53 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Jeff Cody<jcody@redhat.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 06/08/2012 08:42 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Let's figure out how to specify block-commit so we're all happy, that
>>>>>>>>>> way we can avoid duplicating work.  Any comments on my notes above?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think we are almost completely on the same page - devil is in the
>>>>>>>>> details, of course (for instance, on how to convert the destination base
>>>>>>>>> from r/o to r/w).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great.  The atomic r/o ->  r/w transition and the commit coroutine can
>>>>>>>> be implemented on in parallel.  Are you happy to implement the atomic
>>>>>>>> r/o ->  r/w transition since you wrote bdrv_append()?  Then Zhi Hui can
>>>>>>>> assume that part already works and focus on implementing the commit
>>>>>>>> coroutine in the meantime.  I'm just suggesting a way to split up the
>>>>>>>> work, please let me know if you think this is good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am happy to do it that way.  I'll shift my focus to the atomic image
>>>>>>> reopen in r/w mode.  I'll go ahead and post my diagrams and other info
>>>>>>> for block-commit on the wiki, because I don't think it conflicts with we
>>>>>>> discussed above (although I will modify my diagrams to not show commit
>>>>>>> from the top-level image).  Of course, feel free to change it as
>>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I may have mentioned it before, but just in case: I think Supriya's
>>>>>> bdrv_reopen() patches are a good starting point. I don't know why they
>>>>>> were never completed, but I think we all agreed on the general design,
>>>>>> so it should be possible to pick that up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Though if you have already started with your own work on it, Jeff, I
>>>>>> expect that it won't be much different because it's basically the same
>>>>>> transactional approach that you know and that we already used for group
>>>>>> snapshots.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I will definitely use parts of Supriya's as it makes sense - what I
>>>>> started work on is similar to bdrv_append() and the current transaction
>>>>> approach, so there will be plenty in common to reuse, even with some
>>>>> differences.
>>>>
>>>> I have CCed Supriya who has been working on the reopen patch series.
>>>> She is close to posting a new version.
>>>
>>> It's just a bit disappointing that it takes several months between each
>>> two versions of the patch series. We'd like to have this in qemu 1.2,
>>> not only in qemu 1.14.
>>>
>>> I can understand if someone can't find the time, but then allow at least
>>> someone else to pick it up.
>>
>> Hey, don't shoot the messenger :).  I just wanted add Supriya to CC so
>> she can join the discussion and see how much overlap there is with
>> what she's doing.  We all contribute to QEMU from different angles and
>> with different priorities.  If there is a time critical dependency on
>> the reopen code then discuss it here and the result will be that
>> someone officially drives the feature on.
>>
>
> I am more than happy to take the previous reopen() patches, and drive
> those forward, and also do whatever else is needed for live block
> commit.
>
> It sounds like Zhi Hui is working on live block commit patches, and
> Supriya is working on the bdrv_reopen() portion - I don't want to
> duplicate any effort, but if there is anything I can do to help with
> either of those areas, just let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
>
Jeff please go ahead with block-commit, I
am finishing up my fdc async conversion patch series first.  I will
reply when I'm ready to work on block-commit.

Thank you very much!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-14 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-07  6:19 [Qemu-devel] CoW image commit+shrink(= make_empty) support Taisuke Yamada
2012-06-07 14:14 ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-08 12:42   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-08 13:19     ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-08 13:53       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-08 14:32         ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-08 16:11           ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-08 17:46             ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-08 17:57               ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-08 18:33                 ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-08 21:08                   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-09 16:52                     ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-11  7:57                       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-10 16:10                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-11  7:59                   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-11  8:01                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-11 12:09               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-11 12:50                 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-11 14:24                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-11 15:37                     ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-11 19:12                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-12  7:27                         ` Zhi Hui Li
2012-06-12 10:56                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-13 10:56                         ` Supriya Kannery
2012-06-14 14:23                       ` Zhi Hui Li [this message]
2012-06-14 14:29                         ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-14 18:28                           ` Supriya Kannery
2012-06-15 21:01                             ` Supriya Kannery
2012-06-10 16:06       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-08 10:39 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-09 11:21   ` Taisuke Yamada

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