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From: Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>
To: Zhi Hui Li <zhihuili@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Supriya Kannery <supriyak@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	zhihuili@cn.ibm.com, Taisuke Yamada <tai@rakugaki.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] CoW image commit+shrink(= make_empty) support
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:29:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FD9F52E.3050507@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FD9F3E8.8080306@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 06/14/2012 10:23 AM, Zhi Hui Li wrote:
> On 2012年06月11日 23:37, Jeff Cody wrote:
>> On 06/11/2012 10:24 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Kevin Wolf<kwolf@redhat.com>  wrote:
>>>> Am 11.06.2012 14:09, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Jeff Cody<jcody@redhat.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> On 06/08/2012 12:11 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>>>>>> Am 08.06.2012 16:32, schrieb Jeff Cody:
>>>>>>>> On 06/08/2012 09:53 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Jeff Cody<jcody@redhat.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 06/08/2012 08:42 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Let's figure out how to specify block-commit so we're all happy, that
>>>>>>>>>>> way we can avoid duplicating work.  Any comments on my notes above?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think we are almost completely on the same page - devil is in the
>>>>>>>>>> details, of course (for instance, on how to convert the destination base
>>>>>>>>>> from r/o to r/w).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Great.  The atomic r/o ->  r/w transition and the commit coroutine can
>>>>>>>>> be implemented on in parallel.  Are you happy to implement the atomic
>>>>>>>>> r/o ->  r/w transition since you wrote bdrv_append()?  Then Zhi Hui can
>>>>>>>>> assume that part already works and focus on implementing the commit
>>>>>>>>> coroutine in the meantime.  I'm just suggesting a way to split up the
>>>>>>>>> work, please let me know if you think this is good.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am happy to do it that way.  I'll shift my focus to the atomic image
>>>>>>>> reopen in r/w mode.  I'll go ahead and post my diagrams and other info
>>>>>>>> for block-commit on the wiki, because I don't think it conflicts with we
>>>>>>>> discussed above (although I will modify my diagrams to not show commit
>>>>>>>> from the top-level image).  Of course, feel free to change it as
>>>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I may have mentioned it before, but just in case: I think Supriya's
>>>>>>> bdrv_reopen() patches are a good starting point. I don't know why they
>>>>>>> were never completed, but I think we all agreed on the general design,
>>>>>>> so it should be possible to pick that up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Though if you have already started with your own work on it, Jeff, I
>>>>>>> expect that it won't be much different because it's basically the same
>>>>>>> transactional approach that you know and that we already used for group
>>>>>>> snapshots.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will definitely use parts of Supriya's as it makes sense - what I
>>>>>> started work on is similar to bdrv_append() and the current transaction
>>>>>> approach, so there will be plenty in common to reuse, even with some
>>>>>> differences.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have CCed Supriya who has been working on the reopen patch series.
>>>>> She is close to posting a new version.
>>>>
>>>> It's just a bit disappointing that it takes several months between each
>>>> two versions of the patch series. We'd like to have this in qemu 1.2,
>>>> not only in qemu 1.14.
>>>>
>>>> I can understand if someone can't find the time, but then allow at least
>>>> someone else to pick it up.
>>>
>>> Hey, don't shoot the messenger :).  I just wanted add Supriya to CC so
>>> she can join the discussion and see how much overlap there is with
>>> what she's doing.  We all contribute to QEMU from different angles and
>>> with different priorities.  If there is a time critical dependency on
>>> the reopen code then discuss it here and the result will be that
>>> someone officially drives the feature on.
>>>
>>
>> I am more than happy to take the previous reopen() patches, and drive
>> those forward, and also do whatever else is needed for live block
>> commit.
>>
>> It sounds like Zhi Hui is working on live block commit patches, and
>> Supriya is working on the bdrv_reopen() portion - I don't want to
>> duplicate any effort, but if there is anything I can do to help with
>> either of those areas, just let me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
> Jeff please go ahead with block-commit, I
> am finishing up my fdc async conversion patch series first.  I will
> reply when I'm ready to work on block-commit.
> 
> Thank you very much!
> 

Hi Zhi,

I will do that.  Thanks!

Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-14 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-07  6:19 [Qemu-devel] CoW image commit+shrink(= make_empty) support Taisuke Yamada
2012-06-07 14:14 ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-08 12:42   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-08 13:19     ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-08 13:53       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-08 14:32         ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-08 16:11           ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-08 17:46             ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-08 17:57               ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-08 18:33                 ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-08 21:08                   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-09 16:52                     ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-11  7:57                       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-10 16:10                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-11  7:59                   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-11  8:01                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-11 12:09               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-11 12:50                 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-11 14:24                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-11 15:37                     ` Jeff Cody
2012-06-11 19:12                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-12  7:27                         ` Zhi Hui Li
2012-06-12 10:56                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-13 10:56                         ` Supriya Kannery
2012-06-14 14:23                       ` Zhi Hui Li
2012-06-14 14:29                         ` Jeff Cody [this message]
2012-06-14 18:28                           ` Supriya Kannery
2012-06-15 21:01                             ` Supriya Kannery
2012-06-10 16:06       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-08 10:39 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-06-09 11:21   ` Taisuke Yamada

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