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From: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
To: "Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Pierrick Bouvier" <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/13] hw/xtensa/xtfpga: Replace memcpy()+tswap32() by stl_endian_p()
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 07:08:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c281169-c415-4382-9fc7-3fd5943170b0@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <448beb47-c05f-40aa-a1a0-87ef27bfb494@redhat.com>

On 10/3/24 23:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 03/10/2024 23.40, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
>> OK I guess I'm seeing Thomas point now; this series cover was not clear
>> enough. The goal is to remove TARGET_BIG_ENDIAN so we can build half
>> objects and do a little step toward the single binary.
> 
> Ok, that piece of information was missing in the patch description, indeed.
> But the tswap function should already work with common code, see the target_needs_bswap() 
> stuff in include/exec/tswap.h, so maybe this change here even is not needed at all?

The current practice of target_needs_bswap() merely restricts the scope of 
TARGET_BIG_ENDIAN, allowing devices to be built once.  It still requires TARGET_BIG_ENDIAN 
to exist.

For the goal of single-binary, target_needs_bswap() cannot exist, since there may be no 
one correct answer across the system.  We will need the sort of infrastructure that Phil 
is adding: endianness being chosen by the machine model and/or the instantiated devices.

What is left is deciding on the exact API to use.  The ld/st_endian_p interface with a 
boolean seems reasonable.  It interacts well with TARGET_BIG_ENDIAN as an intermediate 
step, as well as with the virtio legacy cpu mode dependent callback.


r~


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-04 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-30  7:34 [PATCH 00/13] hw: Add ld/st_endian() APIs Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-09-30  7:34 ` [PATCH 01/13] qemu/bswap: Introduce ld/st_endian_p() API Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-01 16:45   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-03 20:50   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-03 21:28     ` Richard Henderson
2024-10-03 21:34       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-03 21:37         ` Richard Henderson
2024-10-03 21:46           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-09-30  7:34 ` [PATCH 02/13] hw/virtio/virtio-access: Use the " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-01 16:46   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-09-30  7:34 ` [PATCH 03/13] target/arm/ptw: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-01 16:46   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-09-30  7:34 ` [PATCH 04/13] hw/mips: Pass BlCpuCfg argument to bootloader API Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-01 16:49   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-09-30  7:34 ` [PATCH 05/13] hw/mips: Add cpu_is_bigendian field to BlCpuCfg structure Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-01 16:50   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-09-30  7:34 ` [PATCH 06/13] tests/tcg/plugins: Use the ld/st_endian_p() API Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-01 16:50   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-02 12:18   ` Alex Bennée
2024-09-30  7:34 ` [PATCH 07/13] hw/xtensa/xtfpga: Remove TARGET_BIG_ENDIAN #ifdef'ry Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-09-30 14:28   ` Thomas Huth
2024-10-01 16:51   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-03 21:35   ` Richard Henderson
2024-10-10 18:08     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-09-30  7:34 ` [PATCH 08/13] hw/xtensa/xtfpga: Replace memcpy()+tswap32() by stl_endian_p() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-09-30 14:32   ` Thomas Huth
2024-10-03 16:02     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-03 16:04       ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-03 20:48         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-03 21:31           ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-03 21:34             ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-03 21:40               ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-04  6:44                 ` Thomas Huth
2024-10-04 14:08                   ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2024-09-30  7:34 ` [PATCH 09/13] exec/memory_ldst_phys: Introduce ld/st_endian_phys() API Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-01 16:54   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-03 21:39   ` Richard Henderson
2024-10-03 21:47   ` Richard Henderson
2024-09-30  7:34 ` [PATCH 10/13] hw/virtio/virtio-access: Use " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-01 16:54   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-09-30  7:34 ` [PATCH 11/13] hw/pci/pci_device: Add PCI_DMA_DEFINE_LDST_END() macro Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-01 16:56   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-09-30  7:34 ` [PATCH 12/13] hw/pci/pci_device: Introduce ld/st_endian_pci_dma() API Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-01 16:57   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-03 22:04   ` Richard Henderson
2024-09-30  7:34 ` [PATCH 13/13] hw/net/tulip: Use " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-01 16:57   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-03 22:10   ` Richard Henderson

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