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From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: "Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	jemmy858585@gmail.com, "Lidong Chen" <lidongchen@tencent.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] qemu-img: fix some spelling errors
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 21:11:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4d38eb43-f61d-106a-ffd4-d4f0c76df71d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1cdac8de-6340-ac1a-9d2b-3546a4c7ffd3@redhat.com>

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On 24.04.2017 17:53, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 04/24/2017 10:47 AM, Eric Blake wrote:
>> On 04/24/2017 10:37 AM, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
>>
>>>>>  /*
>>>>> - * Returns true iff the first sector pointed to by 'buf' contains at
>>>>> least
>>>>> - * a non-NUL byte.
>>>>> + * Returns true if the first sector pointed to by 'buf' contains at
>>>>> least
>>>>> + * a non-NULL byte.
>>>>
>>>> NACK to both changes.  'iff' is an English word that is shorthand for
>>>> "if and only if".  "NUL" means the one-byte character, while "NULL"
>>>> means the 8-byte (or 4-byte, on 32-bit platform) pointer value.
>>>
>>> I agree with Lidong shorthands are not obvious from non-native speaker.
>>>
>>> What about this?
>>>
>>>  * Returns true if (and only if) the first sector pointed to by 'buf'
>>> contains
>>
>> That might be okay.

Might, yes, but we have it all over the code. I'm not particularly avid
to change this, because I am in fact one of the culprits (and I'm a
non-native speaker, but I do like to use LaTeX so I know my \iff).

(By the way, judging from the author's name of this line of code (which
is Thiemo Seufer), I'd wager he's not a native speaker either.)

>>>  * at least a non-null character.
>>
>> But that still doesn't make sense.  The character name is NUL, and
>> non-NULL refers to something that is a pointer, not a character.
> 
> What's more, the NUL character can actually occupy more than one byte
> (think UTF-16, where it is the two-byte 0 value).  Referring to NUL byte
> rather than NUL character (or even the 'zero byte') makes it obvious
> that this function is NOT encoding-sensitive, and doesn't start
> mis-behaving just because the data picks a multi-byte character encoding.

Furthermore, this doesn't have anything to do with being a native
speaker or not: NUL is just the commonly used and probably standardized
abbreviation of a certain ASCII character (in any language). It's OK not
to know this, but I don't think it's OK to change the comment.

Max


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-25 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-23 14:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] qemu-img: make sure contain the consecutive number of zero bytes jemmy858585
2017-04-23 14:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] qemu-img: fix some spelling errors jemmy858585
2017-04-24 14:40   ` Eric Blake
2017-04-24 15:37     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-04-24 15:47       ` Eric Blake
2017-04-24 15:53         ` Eric Blake
2017-04-25  2:10           ` 858585 jemmy
2017-04-25 19:11           ` Max Reitz [this message]
2017-04-26  8:05             ` 858585 jemmy
2017-04-24 14:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] qemu-img: make sure contain the consecutive number of zero bytes Eric Blake
2017-04-25  1:50   ` 858585 jemmy
2017-04-25 19:20     ` Eric Blake
2017-04-25 20:01     ` Max Reitz

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