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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	"Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 01/21] option: make parse_option_bool/number non-static
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 12:12:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4e94fe14-936b-12f2-9c68-245e3a0f7a58@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87shrpfxpf.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

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On 10/21/2016 11:55 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:

> 
> On first glance, this patch makes the boolean values recognized on the
> command line consistent regardless of which part of the code is used to
> recognize them, by extending the QemuOpts parser to accept the option
> visitor's additional convenience values.
> 
> Once we've done that in a release, we can't go back.  No problem if it
> actually achieved consistency.  But it doesn't: there are other parsers
> that recognize only "on" and "off".  A quick grep finds
> select_display(), bdrv_open_inherit(), netfilter_set_status().

Would it be wrong to convert these to use the same function, to get us
to the point where they are consistent instead of self-limited?  Yes, it
means that newer qemu will accept spellings that older doesn't, and that
we can't later prune the set of spellings back down, but trying to
remain backwards-compatible to every different set of inputs on a
command-by-command basis is harder than just making all commands accept
all spellings.

> 
> bdrv_open_inherit() is particularly instructive: -drive gets parsed by
> QemuOpts (evidence: your patch makes read-only=y work), but by the time
> the options arrive here, they're a QDict.  Curiously,
> bdrv_open_inherit() expects the value of key "read-only" to be a
> *string*, and it checks for "on".  Fortunately, something on the way to
> bdrv_open_inherit() replaces the "y" by "on", so this works.  My point
> is: this patch is trickier than it looks on first glance.
> 
> There's also HMP, which continues to accept only "on" and "off".

Particularly for HMP, where we DON'T have backwards-compatibility
constraints, I'd argue that ease-of-use is the driving factor and that
HMP should allow ALL spellings of boolean arguments.

> 
> We might want to treat the option visitor's additional boolean values
> like its other syntax extensions: keep for compatibility, but confine
> to existing uses.

As in - new interfaces ONLY get to pass "true" or "false", and only
existing interfaces get to also pass "y" or "on"?

> 
> I think we should decide that when we merge the rest of your option
> visitor replacement work, hopefully in 2.9.
> 
> 

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-21 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-30 14:45 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 00/21] QAPI/QOM work for non-scalar object properties Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 01/21] option: make parse_option_bool/number non-static Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 16:55   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21 17:12     ` Eric Blake [this message]
2016-10-21 17:51       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 02/21] qdict: implement a qdict_crumple method for un-flattening a dict Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 14:32   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 14:11     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21  9:58       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21 18:31         ` Max Reitz
2016-10-24  9:18           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-24 10:28             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-24 12:38               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-25 10:03           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-25 10:20             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-25 12:29               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 03/21] qapi: add trace events for visitor Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 15:49   ` Eric Blake
2016-10-06 14:39   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2016-10-07 13:59   ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2016-10-07 14:16     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 10:52       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 04/21] qapi: rename QmpInputVisitor to QObjectInputVisitor Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-25 13:41   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 05/21] qapi: rename QmpOutputVisitor to QObjectOutputVisitor Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-25 13:36   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 06/21] qapi: don't pass two copies of TestInputVisitorData to tests Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 17:43   ` Eric Blake
2016-10-06 14:39   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 07/21] qapi: permit scalar type conversions in QObjectInputVisitor Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 17:48   ` Eric Blake
2016-10-11 16:20   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-12 14:51     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-12 15:05       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-12 15:26         ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 08/21] qapi: allow QObjectInputVisitor to be created with QemuOpts Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 17:55   ` Eric Blake
2016-10-06 14:56   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2016-10-12  8:08   ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2016-10-13  7:23     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 09/21] qapi: permit auto-creating single element lists Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 17:59   ` Eric Blake
2016-10-12  9:18   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 14:23     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 11:58       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 10/21] qapi: permit auto-creating nested structs Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 18:23   ` Eric Blake
2016-10-06 15:10   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2016-10-06 15:18     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-06 15:30       ` Kevin Wolf
2016-10-06 15:39         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-06 15:51           ` Kevin Wolf
2016-10-06 15:57             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-12 14:00               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-06 17:54         ` Eric Blake
2016-10-12 14:12   ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 11/21] qapi: add integer range support for QObjectInputVisitor Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 19:45   ` Eric Blake
2016-10-12 15:50   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-12 16:03     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2016-10-12 18:14       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 14:28     ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 10:58       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 12/21] option: allow qemu_opts_to_qdict to merge repeated options Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 20:08   ` Eric Blake
2016-10-12 17:46   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-13  9:21     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 14:29     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 11:09       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21 11:14         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-13  8:31   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 14:37     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 11:28       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 13/21] qdict: allow qdict_crumple to accept compound types as values Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-13 12:35   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-13 14:46     ` Kevin Wolf
2016-10-17 14:50       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-17 15:43         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-17 17:48           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-17 17:38         ` Eric Blake
2016-10-18 10:59           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-18  9:34         ` Kevin Wolf
2016-10-18 15:35           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19  9:25             ` Kevin Wolf
2016-10-19  9:42               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 13:31             ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Eric Blake
2016-10-20 14:46     ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 14/21] qapi: allow repeated opts with qobject_input_visitor_new_opts Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 17:13   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 15/21] qom: support non-scalar properties with -object Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 16:54   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-07-10 19:30   ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2017-07-11  8:10     ` Markus Armbruster
2017-07-11 14:44       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-07-11 14:49         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-12 17:56           ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 16/21] hmp: support non-scalar properties with object_add Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20  6:43   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 17/21] numa: convert to use QObjectInputVisitor for -numa Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20  6:57   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 18/21] block: convert crypto driver to use QObjectInputVisitor Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 19/21] acpi: convert to QObjectInputVisitor for -acpi parsing Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 20/21] net: convert to QObjectInputVisitor for -net/-netdev parsing Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20  7:38   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 13:43     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Eric Blake
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 21/21] qapi: delete unused OptsVisitor code Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 15:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 00/21] QAPI/QOM work for non-scalar object properties no-reply
2016-09-30 18:50   ` Eric Blake
2016-10-21 18:30 ` Markus Armbruster

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