From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
"Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 01/21] option: make parse_option_bool/number non-static
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 12:12:19 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4e94fe14-936b-12f2-9c68-245e3a0f7a58@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87shrpfxpf.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>
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On 10/21/2016 11:55 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>
> On first glance, this patch makes the boolean values recognized on the
> command line consistent regardless of which part of the code is used to
> recognize them, by extending the QemuOpts parser to accept the option
> visitor's additional convenience values.
>
> Once we've done that in a release, we can't go back. No problem if it
> actually achieved consistency. But it doesn't: there are other parsers
> that recognize only "on" and "off". A quick grep finds
> select_display(), bdrv_open_inherit(), netfilter_set_status().
Would it be wrong to convert these to use the same function, to get us
to the point where they are consistent instead of self-limited? Yes, it
means that newer qemu will accept spellings that older doesn't, and that
we can't later prune the set of spellings back down, but trying to
remain backwards-compatible to every different set of inputs on a
command-by-command basis is harder than just making all commands accept
all spellings.
>
> bdrv_open_inherit() is particularly instructive: -drive gets parsed by
> QemuOpts (evidence: your patch makes read-only=y work), but by the time
> the options arrive here, they're a QDict. Curiously,
> bdrv_open_inherit() expects the value of key "read-only" to be a
> *string*, and it checks for "on". Fortunately, something on the way to
> bdrv_open_inherit() replaces the "y" by "on", so this works. My point
> is: this patch is trickier than it looks on first glance.
>
> There's also HMP, which continues to accept only "on" and "off".
Particularly for HMP, where we DON'T have backwards-compatibility
constraints, I'd argue that ease-of-use is the driving factor and that
HMP should allow ALL spellings of boolean arguments.
>
> We might want to treat the option visitor's additional boolean values
> like its other syntax extensions: keep for compatibility, but confine
> to existing uses.
As in - new interfaces ONLY get to pass "true" or "false", and only
existing interfaces get to also pass "y" or "on"?
>
> I think we should decide that when we merge the rest of your option
> visitor replacement work, hopefully in 2.9.
>
>
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Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-30 14:45 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 00/21] QAPI/QOM work for non-scalar object properties Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 01/21] option: make parse_option_bool/number non-static Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 16:55 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21 17:12 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2016-10-21 17:51 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 02/21] qdict: implement a qdict_crumple method for un-flattening a dict Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 14:32 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 14:11 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 9:58 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21 18:31 ` Max Reitz
2016-10-24 9:18 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-24 10:28 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-24 12:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-25 10:03 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-25 10:20 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-25 12:29 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 03/21] qapi: add trace events for visitor Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 15:49 ` Eric Blake
2016-10-06 14:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2016-10-07 13:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2016-10-07 14:16 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 10:52 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 04/21] qapi: rename QmpInputVisitor to QObjectInputVisitor Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-25 13:41 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 05/21] qapi: rename QmpOutputVisitor to QObjectOutputVisitor Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-25 13:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 06/21] qapi: don't pass two copies of TestInputVisitorData to tests Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 17:43 ` Eric Blake
2016-10-06 14:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 07/21] qapi: permit scalar type conversions in QObjectInputVisitor Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 17:48 ` Eric Blake
2016-10-11 16:20 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-12 14:51 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-12 15:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-12 15:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 08/21] qapi: allow QObjectInputVisitor to be created with QemuOpts Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 17:55 ` Eric Blake
2016-10-06 14:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2016-10-12 8:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2016-10-13 7:23 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 09/21] qapi: permit auto-creating single element lists Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 17:59 ` Eric Blake
2016-10-12 9:18 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 14:23 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 11:58 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 10/21] qapi: permit auto-creating nested structs Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 18:23 ` Eric Blake
2016-10-06 15:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2016-10-06 15:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-06 15:30 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-10-06 15:39 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-06 15:51 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-10-06 15:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-12 14:00 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-06 17:54 ` Eric Blake
2016-10-12 14:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 11/21] qapi: add integer range support for QObjectInputVisitor Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 19:45 ` Eric Blake
2016-10-12 15:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-12 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2016-10-12 18:14 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 14:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 10:58 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 12/21] option: allow qemu_opts_to_qdict to merge repeated options Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 20:08 ` Eric Blake
2016-10-12 17:46 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-13 9:21 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 14:29 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 11:09 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21 11:14 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-13 8:31 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 14:37 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 11:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 13/21] qdict: allow qdict_crumple to accept compound types as values Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-13 12:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-13 14:46 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-10-17 14:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-17 15:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-17 17:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-17 17:38 ` Eric Blake
2016-10-18 10:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-18 9:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-10-18 15:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19 9:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-10-19 9:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 13:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Eric Blake
2016-10-20 14:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 14/21] qapi: allow repeated opts with qobject_input_visitor_new_opts Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 17:13 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 15/21] qom: support non-scalar properties with -object Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 16:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-07-10 19:30 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2017-07-11 8:10 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-07-11 14:44 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-07-11 14:49 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-12 17:56 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 16/21] hmp: support non-scalar properties with object_add Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 6:43 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 17/21] numa: convert to use QObjectInputVisitor for -numa Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 6:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 18/21] block: convert crypto driver to use QObjectInputVisitor Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 19/21] acpi: convert to QObjectInputVisitor for -acpi parsing Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 20/21] net: convert to QObjectInputVisitor for -net/-netdev parsing Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 7:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Eric Blake
2016-09-30 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 21/21] qapi: delete unused OptsVisitor code Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-30 15:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 00/21] QAPI/QOM work for non-scalar object properties no-reply
2016-09-30 18:50 ` Eric Blake
2016-10-21 18:30 ` Markus Armbruster
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