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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos" <nmav@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>,
	Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Virtio RNG: Consider changing the default entropy source to /dev/urandom?
Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 10:53:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4e9ff44c-fa61-71c5-f835-24047403ba67@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190507152211.GU27205@redhat.com>

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On 5/7/19 10:22 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 11:59:05AM +0200, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote:
>> In terms of RHEL what is preferred is (1) use a crypto lib, and (2) if
>> that's not possible use getrandom(). That is summarized in this
>> article:
>>
>> https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/understanding-red-hat-enterprise-linux-random-number-generator-interface
> 
> For QEMU this would mean re-writing the code to use qcrypto_random_bytes
> instead. This internal API is backed by a crypto lib if available,
> falling back to /dev/urandom or /dev/random on UNIX, or CryptGenRandom
> on Windows. We could add getrandom() support there too.
> 
> The main question is whether to implement a new backends/rng-builtin.c
> or modify backends/rng-random.c so that it has a NULL filename by
> default, which would be taken as meaning use the qcrypto_random_bytes
> API.  The latter benefits that all existing VMs which don't have a
> filename set would get the new behaviour. The latter has downside
> that it is not discoverable from mgmt apps, so they won't know if
> they can rely on it or not.

Alas, our example in misc.json is:

# -> { "execute": "object-add",
#      "arguments": { "qom-type": "rng-random", "id": "rng1",
#                     "props": { "filename": "/dev/hwrng" } } }
# <- { "return": {} }

which is indeed one of the interfaces that evades introspection at the
present, so even if we made filename a StrOrNull, which would normally
show up in introspection when done on any other command, it is invisible
here. :(

-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3226
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-07 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20180921154323.GS28120@paraplu>
2019-05-02 18:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Virtio RNG: Consider changing the default entropy source to /dev/urandom? Kashyap Chamarthy
2019-05-02 18:02   ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2019-05-03  7:59   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2019-05-03  7:59     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2019-05-07  9:59   ` Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
2019-05-07 15:22     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-07 15:53       ` Eric Blake [this message]
2019-05-07 17:14       ` Richard Henderson
2019-05-07 17:27         ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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