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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: "kwolf@redhat.com" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"sw@weilnetz.de" <sw@weilnetz.de>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/12] qemu-thread: add QemuSemaphore
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:20:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5004232A.9010301@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50042086.3050101@siemens.com>

Il 16/07/2012 16:09, Jan Kiszka ha scritto:
> On 2012-07-16 16:03, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 16/07/2012 15:53, Jan Kiszka ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>> qemu_cond_wait only uses WaitForSingleObject with INFINITE timeout, and
>>>>> the algorithm relies on that.
>>> I see. But this doesn't look complex awfully. Just move the waker
>>> signaling from within cond_wait under the mutex as well, maybe add
>>> another flag if there is really someone waiting, and that's it. The
>>> costs should be hard to measure, even in line of code.
>>
>> There is still a race after WaitForSingleObject times out.  You need to
>> catch the mutex before decreasing the number of waiters, and during that
>> window somebody can broadcast the condition variable.
> 
> ...and that's why you check what needs to be done to handle this race
> after grabbing the mutex. IOW, replicate the state information that the
> Windows semaphore contains into the emulated condition variable object.

It is already there (cv->waiters), but it is accessed atomically.  To do
what you suggest I would need to add a mutex.

>> I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's hard and I dislike
>> qemu_cond_timedwait as much as you dislike semaphores. :)
> 
> As you cannot eliminate our use cases for condition variables, let's
> focus on the existing synchronization patterns instead of introducing
> new ones + new mechanisms.

I'm not introducing <fancy new primitive of the day>... semaphores have
the advantage of having better support under Windows (at least older
versions; Microsoft saw the light starting with Vista---yes I know the
oxymoron---and added condvars).

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-16 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-16 10:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] Portable thread-pool/AIO, Win32 emulated AIO Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/12] event_notifier: enable it to use pipes Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-19 18:58   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-16 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/12] event_notifier: add Win32 implementation Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/12] main-loop: use event notifiers Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-19 19:04   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-16 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/12] aio: provide platform-independent API Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/12] aio: add Win32 implementation Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/12] linux-aio: use event notifiers Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-19 19:10   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-16 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/12] qemu-thread: add QemuSemaphore Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 12:00   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-16 12:01     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu-thread: Introduce qemu_cond_timedwait for POSIX Jan Kiszka
2012-07-16 13:20     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/12] qemu-thread: add QemuSemaphore Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 13:34       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-16 13:35         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 13:53           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-16 14:03             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 14:09               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-16 14:20                 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-07-24 16:55                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/12] aio: add generic thread-pool facility Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/12] block: switch posix-aio-compat to threadpool Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/12] raw: merge posix-aio-compat.c into block/raw-posix.c Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/12] raw-posix: rename raw-posix-aio.h, hide unavailable prototypes Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-16 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/12] raw-win32: add emulated AIO support Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-23 16:35   ` Blue Swirl
2012-07-23 16:59     ` Paolo Bonzini

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