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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	patches@linaro.org, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: Move kvm_allows_irq0_override() to target-i386
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:09:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <500D4D12.1060603@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA82QQeo1isiQce478wMqURZugoaKQN5cdsR16oRSmVZ4Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 07/23/2012 03:58 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 23 July 2012 13:26, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Really, "irqchip in kernel" means asynchronous interrupts - you can
>> inject an interrupt from outside the vcpu thread.  Obviously if the vcpu
>> is sleeping you need to wake it up and that pulls in idle management.
>>
>> "irqchip" for x86 really means the local APIC, which has a synchronous
>> interface with the cpu core.  "local APIC in kernel" really is
>> equivalent to "kernel idle management", "KVM_IRQ_LINE", and irqfd.  The
>> ioapic and pit, on the other hand, don't contribute anything to this
>> (just performance).
> 
>> So yes, ARM with and without GIC are irqchip_in_kernel, since the
>> ARM<->GIC interface is asynchronous.  Whether to emulate the GIC or not
>> is just a performance question.
> 
> So should we be using something other than KVM_CREATE_IRQCHIP to
> ask the kernel to create a GIC model for us (and leave KVM_CREATE_IRQCHIP
> as a dummy "always succeed" ioctl)?

Some time ago I suggested using the parameter to KVM_CREATE_IRQCHIP to
select the "irqchip type".

> 
>> So my view is that ARM with and without kernel GIC are
>> irqchip_in_kernel, since whatever is the local APIC in ARM is always
>> emulated in the kernel.
> 
> I'm not sure ARM has any equivalent to the local APIC -- the GIC
> deals with everything and we don't have any equivalent division
> of labour to the x86 LAPIC-IOAPIC one.

It's probably a tiny part of the core with no name.  The point is that
the x86<->lapic interface is synchronous and bidirectional, while the
lapic<->ioapic interface is asynchronous (it is still bidirectional, but
not in a stop-the-vcpu way).  I assume the ARM<->GIC interface is
unidirectional?


-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-23 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-20 19:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: Move kvm_allows_irq0_override() to target-i386 Peter Maydell
2012-07-21  6:57 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-21  8:54   ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-21  9:14     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-21  9:30       ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-21  9:44         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-21  9:56           ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-21 10:22             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-21 10:53               ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-21 11:08                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-21 12:17                   ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-21 12:35                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-21 12:57                       ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-21 13:16                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-23 12:04                           ` Cornelia Huck
2012-07-23 12:18                             ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 12:25                               ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-23 12:31                                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 12:34                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 13:06                               ` Cornelia Huck
2012-07-23 13:14                                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 13:55                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2012-07-23 14:27                                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 15:01                                       ` Cornelia Huck
2012-07-23 12:26     ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 12:58       ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-23 13:09         ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-07-23 13:27           ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-23 13:38             ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 13:50               ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-23 14:30                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 17:58                   ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-24  8:50                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-24  8:54                       ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-24  8:58                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-23 15:19       ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-23 16:55         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-23 17:41           ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-23 17:51             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-24  8:56         ` Avi Kivity

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