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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	patches@linaro.org, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: Move kvm_allows_irq0_override() to target-i386
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:38:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <500D53DB.5080005@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9tmYzSsnp+fWf2Ysz7KWSgsnHk+nahD0uT7hxZwEo-+g@mail.gmail.com>

On 07/23/2012 04:27 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 23 July 2012 14:09, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 07/23/2012 03:58 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> So should we be using something other than KVM_CREATE_IRQCHIP to
>>> ask the kernel to create a GIC model for us (and leave KVM_CREATE_IRQCHIP
>>> as a dummy "always succeed" ioctl)?
>>
>> Some time ago I suggested using the parameter to KVM_CREATE_IRQCHIP to
>> select the "irqchip type".
> 
> That seems reasonable, although we have an awkward ordering issue
> in KVM as it stands: KVM_CREATE_IRQCHIP needs to be called before
> we start creating VCPU threads (at the moment it is done via kvm_init)
> but we don't know what kind of irqchip we want to create until the
> machine model code actually creates the irqchip device, which generally
> happens after the CPU object is created (and VCPU threads are created
> at that point). We could fix that by moving creation of the actual
> VCPU thread to vl.c after the model has been initialized.

Seems to be purely a qemu problem, no?  While I think it's reasonable to
be flexible, in this case I think qemu ought to know all these things
beforehand.

> 
>>> I'm not sure ARM has any equivalent to the local APIC -- the GIC
>>> deals with everything and we don't have any equivalent division
>>> of labour to the x86 LAPIC-IOAPIC one.
>>
>> It's probably a tiny part of the core with no name.  The point is that
>> the x86<->lapic interface is synchronous and bidirectional, while the
>> lapic<->ioapic interface is asynchronous (it is still bidirectional, but
>> not in a stop-the-vcpu way).  I assume the ARM<->GIC interface is
>> unidirectional?
> 
> Well, strictly speaking the ARM<->GIC interface is implementation
> defined, but in practice you can think of it as "the GIC controls
> the IRQ and FIQ input lines to each core and uses them to signal
> that an interrupt is present". There's no need for anything to
> be signalled back in the other direction: the GIC will just continue
> to hold IRQ asserted until the interrupt handler code writes the
> relevant GIC register to indicate that the interrupt has been
> handled.

Okay.  This agrees with my mental model of how it works.

> (On a core with the virtualization extensions there are also
> signals for the GIC to raise a virtual IRQ or FIQ, but we can
> ignore those for KVM because we don't and can't provide the
> virtualization extensions to a guest.)

Yet.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-23 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-20 19:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: Move kvm_allows_irq0_override() to target-i386 Peter Maydell
2012-07-21  6:57 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-21  8:54   ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-21  9:14     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-21  9:30       ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-21  9:44         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-21  9:56           ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-21 10:22             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-21 10:53               ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-21 11:08                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-21 12:17                   ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-21 12:35                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-21 12:57                       ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-21 13:16                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-23 12:04                           ` Cornelia Huck
2012-07-23 12:18                             ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 12:25                               ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-23 12:31                                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 12:34                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 13:06                               ` Cornelia Huck
2012-07-23 13:14                                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 13:55                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2012-07-23 14:27                                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 15:01                                       ` Cornelia Huck
2012-07-23 12:26     ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 12:58       ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-23 13:09         ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 13:27           ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-23 13:38             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-07-23 13:50               ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-23 14:30                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-23 17:58                   ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-24  8:50                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-24  8:54                       ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-24  8:58                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-23 15:19       ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-23 16:55         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-23 17:41           ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-23 17:51             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-07-24  8:56         ` Avi Kivity

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