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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: aik@ozlabs.ru, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] vfio: VFIO PCI driver for Qemu
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 19:47:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5011748F.2060005@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1343320859.3125.47.camel@ul30vt>

On 07/26/2012 07:40 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 19:06 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 07/26/2012 05:56 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
>> > 
>> > Both KVM and VFIO do strive to make the device in the guest look as much
>> > like it does on bare metal as possible, but we don't guarantee they're
>> > identical and we don't guarantee to match each other.
>> 
>> btw, this is somewhat problematic, conceivably this could break a guest
>> (due to a guest bug).  But with device assignment the compatibility
>> requirements can be relaxed a bit since there is no live migration.
> 
> Well, I would hope that things work better in vfio and we work to make
> that the recommended method of device assignment.  We can't hold one
> back to make things identical.  The only barrier I see to this is that
> vfio focuses on security, enforcing things like ACS to make sure devices
> can't do DMA to other devices outside of the group whereas KVM
> assignment will let you attempt to do nearly anything and counts on
> libvirt to only let the user attempt to do sane things.  As you say,
> there's no live migration with device assignment, so absolute identical
> config space is not a requirement and the difference we do have should
> be sufficiently subtle that the guest doesn't care boot-to-boot.

We could add a strict backward compatibility option that forces the
layout, but it isn't worth it.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-26 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-25 17:03 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] vfio: VFIO PCI driver for Qemu Alex Williamson
2012-07-25 19:30 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-25 19:53   ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-26  8:35     ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-26 14:56       ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-26 15:59         ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-26 16:33           ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-26 16:40             ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-26 19:11               ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-26 16:06         ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-26 16:40           ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-26 16:47             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-07-26 15:09 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-26 16:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-26 17:40   ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-29 13:47     ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 22:29       ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-31 12:34         ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-31 16:56           ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-27 19:22 ` Blue Swirl
2012-07-27 20:28   ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-28  2:55   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy

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