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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Cirrus bugs vs endian: how two bugs cancel each other out
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:08:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50165D0A.6060608@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1343629462.21647.32.camel@pasglop>

On 07/30/2012 09:24 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> So I got cirrus working on ppc with cirrusdrmfb...
> 
> The fun part is that it works :-)
> 
> Basically, the issue is that normally, for it to work, one would have to
> access the framebuffer using the appropriate aperture for byteswapping
> based on the bpp.
> 
> However, qemu doesn't emulate those apertures ... and cirrusdrmfb
> either.
> 
> In fact, qemu cirrus model is just dumb and assumes guest native
> byteorder for the framebuffer.
> 
> The good thing is that this makes it work... the bad thing is that it's
> a completely incorrect HW model and if the linux driver wasn't also
> buggy it wouldn't work.
> 
> However it's also pretty much unfixable without making it also unusable
> in terms of performance so I want to check with you guys if it's ok to
> just leave it as-is.
> 
> Basically, if the fb was LE as it's supposed to be, one would have to
> use the byteswapped apertures. But those can only be emulated by
> trapping on every access to turn it into MMIO emulation, which means
> unusable performances.
> 
> So we end up with what is effectively a BE framebuffer thanks to qemu
> hard coding what it thinks the guest endian is (btw, this is quite
> busted in theory as well since PPC can be bi-endian for example).
> 
> Anyways, it works today, it's just that the HW model is wrong... and I
> don't want to fix it. Any objection ?
> 

Yes.  If a correct guest comes along and tries to use cirrus, it will break.

> As for the work I'm doing to brush up pci-vga a bit, I'm tempted to add
> an MMIO reg or a VBE config reg bit to allow configuring the endianness
> of the underlying fb with a default to what qemu does today.

What are those byteswapped apertures?  Some chipset thing that does the
byteswap?

IIRC ppc has a bit in the TLB entry that tells it to byteswap.  Can't we
use it directly map the framebuffer with byteswapping?



-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-30 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-30  6:24 [Qemu-devel] Cirrus bugs vs endian: how two bugs cancel each other out Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 10:08 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-07-30 11:20   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 11:25     ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 11:54       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 11:58         ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 12:08           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 12:15             ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 12:23               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 16:24             ` Alon Levy
2012-07-30 20:19               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 22:24               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-31  8:10                 ` Alon Levy
2012-08-01 14:35                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06 12:57             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-07-30 13:18           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 13:30             ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 13:45               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 13:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 14:29                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 14:36                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 16:01                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 23:47                         ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-31  3:16                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-06 14:02                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-06 21:13                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-01 23:29                         ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-06 13:47                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-06 14:35                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-31  8:20                     ` Alon Levy
2012-07-30 22:15                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-31  0:17                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-31  3:26                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-06 13:20             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-06 21:16               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-07  5:30                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-07  6:07                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 16:19         ` Alon Levy
2012-08-01 15:42           ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 19:22             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-03  6:45               ` Alon Levy
2012-08-03 13:41                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-07  7:00                   ` Alon Levy
2012-08-07  8:01                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-07 13:05                       ` Erlon Cruz
2012-08-07 14:07                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-07 19:43                           ` Erlon Cruz
2012-08-08  6:18                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-08 14:14                               ` Erlon Cruz
2012-08-09  6:17                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-07-30 15:18 ` Blue Swirl
2012-07-30 15:30   ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-30 15:44     ` Blue Swirl
2012-07-31  8:44 ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-07-31 10:30   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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