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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: jcody@redhat.com, eblake@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 28/47] qmp: add drive-mirror command
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:46:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5017A98E.8000109@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5017A680.8050305@redhat.com>

Am 31.07.2012 11:33, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
> Il 31/07/2012 11:26, Kevin Wolf ha scritto:
>> Am 24.07.2012 13:04, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
>>> This adds the monitor commands that start the mirroring job.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
>>
>> [ Moving the discussion upstream ]
>>
>>> Why make all of it inaccessible?  Everything except target device access
>>> does have a stable API.  The target device access can be delayed to 1.3,
>>> together with the much-needed QMP schema introspection.
>>
>> I'm not even sure about the QMP mirror command itself.
>>
>> I don't really like it, it does too many things at once: It can create
>> the target image file, it opens the target and it actually starts the
>> mirroring. It's rather bad at the first two steps, because it doesn't
>> take any options. This means that it can't create qcow2v3 images, for
>> example. Or you can't mirror into a backup with cache=unsafe while
>> running your real VM on cache=writethrough.
> 
> Yes, though this can be worked around with mode: 'existing'.

True. Only the problem with image creation, though, not the one with
bdrv_open() flags, right?

>> Having an all-in-one mirror command is a nice feature for HMP, but for
>> QMP it's more like a design problem.
>>
>> Now I see you have called it drive-mirror
> 
> I thought this was your idea. :)

Hm, then probably we discussed similar things before. :-)

>> , so that kind of implies that
>> it's not the final blockdev-mirror but just a QMP version of a command
>> primarily designed for HMP. As such this restricted functionality may be
>> acceptable, but it's not like everything is already perfect and there's
>> no room for discussion.
> 
> We keep going back to the same point that we do not have -blockdev, but
> it's becoming a bit frustrating to always rehash this same point...

The question is whether we need it at all. We do have a drive_add
if=none, and for creating a mirror target that should actually be enough.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-31  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-24 11:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/47] Block job improvements for 1.2 Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/47] qapi: generalize documentation of streaming commands Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/47] qerror/block: introduce QERR_BLOCK_JOB_NOT_ACTIVE Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-26 15:26   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-26 15:41     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-26 16:49       ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-26 16:59         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-26 17:02           ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/47] block: move job APIs to separate files Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-26 15:50   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/47] block: add block_job_query Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-30 14:47   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-30 15:05     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-31  8:47       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-31  8:50         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-02 19:28           ` Jeff Cody
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/47] block: add support for job pause/resume Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/47] qmp: add block-job-pause and block-job-resume Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-01  7:42   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/47] qemu-iotests: add test for pausing a streaming operation Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/47] block: rename block_job_complete to block_job_completed Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/47] block: rename BlockErrorAction, BlockQMPEventAction Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/47] block: move BlockdevOnError declaration to QAPI Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/47] block: reorganize io error code Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-01  9:30   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-01  9:46     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/47] block: sort BlockDeviceIoStatus errors by severity Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-01  9:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-01  9:44   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/47] block: introduce block job error Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-25 17:40   ` Eric Blake
2012-08-01 10:14   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-01 11:17     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-01 11:49       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-01 12:09         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-01 12:23           ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-01 12:30             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-01 13:09               ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-01 13:21                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-01 14:01                   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-01 14:34                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-01 14:59                       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-01 15:15                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-06  9:29                           ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-06  9:44                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-06 10:45                               ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-06 10:58                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/47] stream: add on-error argument Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-31 18:40   ` Eric Blake
2012-08-01 10:29   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-01 11:11     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-01 11:45       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/47] blkdebug: process all set_state rules in the old state Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 20:06   ` Blue Swirl
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/47] qemu-iotests: map underscore to dash in QMP argument names Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/47] qemu-iotests: add tests for streaming error handling Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-01 10:43   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-08-01 11:09     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/47] block: live snapshot documentation tweaks Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/47] block: add bdrv_query_info Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-11 13:07   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-11 13:12     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/47] block: add bdrv_query_stats Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/47] block: add bdrv_ensure_backing_file Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-11 13:32   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-11 13:46     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-11 13:58       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-11 14:10         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-11 15:38           ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/47] block: make device optional in BlockInfo Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-11 13:38   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-11 13:49     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-11 14:02       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-11 14:14         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/47] block: add target info to QMP query-blockjobs command Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 24/47] block: introduce new dirty bitmap functionality Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-11 14:57   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-11 16:17     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 25/47] block: add block-job-complete Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 26/47] block: introduce BLOCK_JOB_READY event Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 27/47] block: introduce mirror job Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-25 23:02   ` Eric Blake
2012-09-13 12:54   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-13 14:07     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 28/47] qmp: add drive-mirror command Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-26 23:42   ` Eric Blake
2012-07-27  7:04     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-31  9:26   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-31  9:33     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-31  9:46       ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2012-07-31 10:02         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-31 10:25           ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-31 10:51             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-31 11:13               ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-31 11:25                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-31 12:17                   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-07-31 12:52                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-13 13:15   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-13 13:24     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-13 13:26       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-13 13:38         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 29/47] mirror: support querying target file Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 30/47] mirror: implement completion Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 31/47] qemu-iotests: add mirroring test case Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-26 23:46   ` Eric Blake
2012-07-27  7:04     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 32/47] block: forward bdrv_iostatus_reset to block job Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 33/47] mirror: add support for on-source-error/on-target-error Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-27 15:26   ` Eric Blake
2012-07-30 13:29     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 34/47] qmp: add pull_event function Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 35/47] qemu-iotests: add testcases for mirroring on-source-error/on-target-error Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 36/47] host-utils: add ffsl and flsl Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-27 16:05   ` Eric Blake
2012-07-30 13:30     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 37/47] add hierarchical bitmap data type and test cases Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-28 13:26   ` Eric Blake
2012-07-30 13:39     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-30 14:18       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 38/47] block: implement dirty bitmap using HBitmap Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 39/47] block: make round_to_clusters public Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 40/47] mirror: perform COW if the cluster size is bigger than the granularity Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 41/47] block: return count of dirty sectors, not chunks Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 42/47] block: allow customizing the granularity of the dirty bitmap Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 43/47] mirror: allow customizing the granularity Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-28 13:43   ` Eric Blake
2012-07-30 13:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-30 13:53       ` Eric Blake
2012-07-30 14:03         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 44/47] mirror: switch mirror_iteration to AIO Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-28 13:46   ` Eric Blake
2012-07-30 13:41     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 45/47] mirror: add buf-size argument to drive-mirror Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 46/47] mirror: support more than one in-flight AIO operation Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-24 11:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 47/47] mirror: support arbitrarily-sized iterations Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-28 13:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/47] Block job improvements for 1.2 Eric Blake

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