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From: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, ehabkost@redhat.com, gleb@redhat.com,
	jan.kiszka@siemens.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	blauwirbel@gmail.com, avi@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] target-i386: refactor reset handling and move it into cpu.c
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 23:25:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50199EB0.4040602@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8739467323.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

Am 01.08.2012 22:47, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> writes:
> 
>> Am 01.08.2012 22:02, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>>> Devices do one of two things today:
>>>
>>> 1) register a reset callback
>>>
>>> 2) implement a reset method that is invoked through it's parent bus
>>>
>>> Since I don't expect CPUs to exist on a bus, it's not immediately clear
>>> to me that (1) isn't going to be what we do for quite some time.
>>
>> Err, I thought devices implement a function assigned to a
>> DeviceClass::reset, no? That would be (2) on your list and we've been
>> working on ripping out (1) for devices, on sPAPR for instance.
>> (2) is what we already have with CPUClass::reset.
> 
> Something has to call DeviceClass::reset.  That's done through a
> BusState.  Whenever a bus is created, a qemu_register_reset() call is
> made to invoke the reset method on any device that's part of the bus.
> 
> So just implementing DeviceClass::reset doesn't automatically mean the
> reset function will be called.  In the short term, I think we'll need to
> still register a reset handler.
> 
>> The only remaining issue is that the CPUClass::reset callback is not
>> automatically called on machine/bus reset yet.
>>
>> And what I was saying is that moving the code is NOT an improvement. It
>> is NO functional change and it is NOT a prerequisite for any change on
>> the list today. So it is not needed for the to be released 1.2.
>>
>> A very low hanging fruit for 1.2 would be to register a SINGLE central
>> reset callback that iterates through the globally available CPU list and
>> calls ->reset on each! Then we can drop the reset callbacks in most
>> machines rather than moving old code around.
> 
> Relying on the CPU list for this isn't very QOM-like.  A better approach
> would be to make all CPUs appear in a container and then have the reset
> propagate through container.

That doesn't work since our CPU modelling was going to be machine/SoC
specific. For x86, agreement seemed to be /machine/cpu[n]. For ARM,
Peter requested path/to/SoC/cortex/cpu[n].

I have just posted (and tested on x86_64) a really trivial patch that
avoids walking the CPU list, reuses existing infrastructure and lets us
drop the reset registration from target-i386, too. More reset callback
registrations can then be dropped as follow-ups from other machines.

Whether we walk a list or not, my point is to reduce redundancy. If it's
in one central location we can easily exchange the implementation. And I
do believe that calling my QOM method is very QOM-like rather than
besmearing my nice new CPUClass::reset concept by unnecessarily
introducing ugly old-style callbacks to my shiny QOM realize code. :)

Regards,
Andreas

> 
> Reset is a complicated beast.  While we model a single reset line today,
> this isn't technically correct.  I believe the distinction between reset
> types start to matter with PCI-e actually.
> 
> I do think any reduction in what's happening in machine is a net win.
> Even if we refactor this later, having the machine code do less and
> devices do more is an improvement.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Anthony Liguori
> 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andreas
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Anthony Liguori
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>> GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer; HRB 16746 AG Nürnberg
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-01 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-23 13:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] target-i386: refactor reset handling and move it into cpu.c Igor Mammedov
2012-07-23 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] target-i386: move cpu halted decision into x86_cpu_reset Igor Mammedov
2012-08-01 14:00   ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-02 10:11     ` Igor Mammedov
2012-07-23 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] target-i386: move cpu_reset and reset callback to cpu.c Igor Mammedov
2012-08-01 14:09   ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01  8:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] target-i386: refactor reset handling and move it into cpu.c Gleb Natapov
2012-08-01 15:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-01 15:50   ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 18:25     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-01 19:35       ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 20:02         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-01 20:16           ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 20:47             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-01 21:25               ` Andreas Färber [this message]
2012-08-01 21:43                 ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-01 22:15                   ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-02 11:19                   ` Igor Mammedov
2012-08-01 20:57           ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 21:19             ` Anthony Liguori

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