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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Blue Swirl" <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	"Anthony Liguori" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/15] memory: use refcnt to manage MemoryRegion
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 11:38:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5023771F.5030007@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJnKYQmsAZE5VD3oXvA3NfLqVc-Z-98KT+UiL0g8KPBx=0avkg@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/09/2012 10:27 AM, liu ping fan wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 08/08/2012 09:25 AM, Liu Ping Fan wrote:
>>> From: Liu Ping Fan <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>>>
>>> Using refcnt for mr, so we can separate mr's life cycle management
>>> from refered object.
>>>   When mr->ref 0->1, inc the refered object.
>>>   When mr->ref 1->0, dec the refered object.
>>>
>>> The refered object can be DeviceStae, another mr, or other opaque.
>>
>> Please explain the motivation more fully.
>>
> Actually, the aim is to mange the reference of an object, used by mem view.
> DeviceState can be referred by different system, when it comes to the
> view of subsystem, we hold dev's ref. And any indirect reference will
> just mr->ref++, not dev's.
> This can help us avoid the down-walk through the referred chain, like
> alias----> mr ---> DeviceState.

That is a lot of complexity, for no gain.  Manipulating memory regions
is a slow path, and can be done under the bit qemu lock without any
complications.

> 
> In the previous discussion, you have suggest add dev->ref++ in
> core_region_add.  But I think, if we can move it to higher layer --
> memory_region_{add,del}_subregion, so we can avoid to duplicate do
> this in other xx_region_add.

Why would other memory listeners be impacted?  They all operate under
the big qemu lock.  If they start using devices outside the lock, then
they need to take a reference.

> As a payment for this, we need to handle alias which can be avoid at
> core_region_add().  And mr's ref can help to avoid
>  the down-walk.

The payment is two systems of reference counts.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-09  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-08  6:25 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/15 v2] prepare unplug out of protection of global lock Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/15] atomic: introduce atomic operations Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  8:55   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08  9:02   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:05     ` 陳韋任 (Wei-Ren Chen)
2012-08-08  9:15       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:21   ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-08 13:09     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-08 13:18       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08 13:32         ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-08 13:49           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08 14:00             ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] qom: using atomic ops to re-implement object_ref Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/15] qom: introduce reclaimer to release obj Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:05   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:07     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08  9:15       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  7:33         ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:49           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09  8:18             ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-10  6:43               ` liu ping fan
2012-08-08  9:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09  7:38     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/15] memory: MemoryRegion topology must be stable when updating Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:13   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  7:28     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  8:24       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-10  6:44         ` liu ping fan
2012-08-13 18:28       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-08 19:17   ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-09  7:28     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09 17:09       ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/15] memory: introduce life_ops to MemoryRegion Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:18   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/15] memory: use refcnt to manage MemoryRegion Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:20   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  7:27     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  8:38       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-08-10  6:44         ` liu ping fan
2012-08-12  8:43           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/15] memory: inc/dec mr's ref when adding/removing from mem view Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/15] memory: introduce PhysMap to present snapshot of toploygy Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:27   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08 19:18   ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-09  7:29     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/15] memory: prepare flatview and radix-tree for rcu style access Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:41   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-11  1:58     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-11 10:06       ` liu ping fan
2012-08-08 19:23   ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-09  7:29     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/15] memory: change tcg related code to using PhysMap Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/15] lock: introduce global lock for device tree Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09  7:28     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:41       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08  9:42   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  7:27     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  8:31       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/15] qdev: using devtree lock to protect device's accessing Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:33   ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/15] hotplug: introduce qdev_unplug_complete() to remove device from views Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08 10:07     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  7:28     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  8:00       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-10  6:42         ` liu ping fan
2012-08-13 18:53           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-13 18:51         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/15] qom: object_unref call reclaimer Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:40   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-13 18:56   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/15] e1000: using new interface--unmap to unplug Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:56   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09  7:28     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:40       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-10  6:43         ` liu ping fan

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