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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"aik@ozlabs.ru" <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Alex Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Cole Robinson <crobinso@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] VFIO-based PCI device assignment for QEMU 1.2
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:19:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5029FBF6.5050600@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87393qmvwe.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

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On 2012-08-13 21:31, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com> writes:
> 
>> On 2012-08-13 15:58, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> On 08/13/2012 04:27 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for pushing this forward!  Hopefully this will finally kill off
>>>> qemu-kvm.git for good.
>>>
>>> No, it won't.  vfio requires a 3.6 kernel, which we cannot assume anyone
>>> has.  We'll need the original device assignment code side-by-side.
>>
>> ...which is on my to-do list for 1.3.
> 
> Is there a deprecation plan for the old device assignment code?
> 
> I'm not really against the idea of requiring a new kernel for new
> features.
> 
> From a Fedora/OpenSUSE point of view, would supporting old kernels be a
> requirement to stop shipping qemu-kvm.git over qemu.git?
> 
> Since distros ship new kernels and new userspaces, I don't think distros
> would care so I'm not sure who we're trying to support old kernels for.

We are supporting KVM down to 2.6.3x, if not 2.6.2x. Also, device
assignment is a new feature for upstream, but not for the masses of KVM
users of QEMU (due to qemu-kvm and corresponding libvirt support). I
think it will take some more kernel releases to have all feature there
that allows performance-wise equivalent device assignment via VFIO. And
it can even be helpful to cross-check issues of VFIO in the field.

Except for some self-contained helper functions in the KVM layer,
classic device assignment will be as isolated as VFIO. So I don't think
we would take any noteworthy burden to maintain it as long as the kernel
supports this interface.

Can't comment on the other questions.

Jan



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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-14  7:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-01  5:18 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] VFIO-based PCI device assignment for QEMU 1.2 Alex Williamson
2012-08-01  5:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] vfio: Import vfio kernel header Alex Williamson
2012-08-01  7:13   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-01 18:09     ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-02  9:02       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-02 16:37         ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-02 16:45           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-01  5:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] vfio: vfio-pci device assignment driver Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 22:18   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-14  5:25     ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-14  7:12   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-14 13:51     ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-14 15:53   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-14 17:23     ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-15  8:56       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-01  5:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] vfio: Enable vfio-pci and mark supported Alex Williamson
2012-08-01  7:15   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-01 18:14     ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-01 19:40       ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-02  9:03         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-13 22:19     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-14  5:27       ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-14 14:35         ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-13 13:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] VFIO-based PCI device assignment for QEMU 1.2 Anthony Liguori
2012-08-13 13:58   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-13 14:04     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-13 19:31       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-14  7:19         ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2012-08-14 14:42         ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-14 14:53         ` Cole Robinson
2012-08-14 15:04           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 15:28             ` Cole Robinson
2012-08-13 14:23   ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 15:48     ` Andreas Hartmann
2012-08-13 16:14       ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 16:36         ` Andreas Hartmann
2012-08-13 16:57           ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 18:32             ` Andreas Hartmann
2012-08-13 19:33     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-13 20:48       ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-13 20:56         ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 20:55       ` [Qemu-devel] VFIO: Call for reviewers (was Re: [PATCH 0/3] VFIO-based PCI device assignment for QEMU 1.2) Alex Williamson

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